Theos-Talk Archives (December 2009 Message tt00009)

Nothing in a name except when someone tries to hide behind an assumed name.
Theosophical circle is small enough that soon the identity gets discovered.
Everyone puts on a mask and many would like to project a positive image to
the public and occasionally what is behind the mask gets revealed and what
is seen may not be something pretty!

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Christina <c.leest@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>
> Ah, you changed your name in spirituality, so what is a name.?
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Spirituality" <mail@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just meant that a well educated woman over 30 with a career of her own
> would not be expected to change her name on marriage (in The Netherlands).
> In fact, studies show that those who don't change their names are on average
> more successful in their careers.
> >
> > It's at the very least a branding thing: keeping the name you were known
> to have started out your career with just helps avoid confusion. My mother
> changed her professional name back to her maiden name, without divorcing my
> father, a few years ago. I think out of feminist ideals. Personally I would
> not think of changing my name on marriage.
> >
> > I've since been informed that this is a VERY Dutch perspective, not
> relevant for Brazil.
> >
> > I'm 35 - is that young even on an online site like this one?
> >
> > Katinka
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info. As I recall, you mentioned about Jan Kind several
> > > months ago when the website was taken down after discovery.
> > >
> > > Your comment about your age, most here on the list are generally older
> than
> > > you are!! You are young.
> > >
> > > MKR
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Spirituality <mail@>wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't know who S.T. Adelante is.
> > > >
> > > > I can tell you that Jan Kind is married to Terezinha. She took his
> name on
> > > > their marriage, even though she is quite a professional and older
> than I am.
> > > > He is Dutch. She is Brazilian. They married only a few years ago. I
> would
> > > > guess 8 or 9 years ago.
> > > >
> > > > Katinka
> > > >
> > > > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/
> > > > http://www.overpeinzende.nl/
> > > > http://www.allconsidering.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks. When the website first came up, it was not public and when
> > > > > someone found out about it, it was taken down. It was at a time
> > > > > following the last International Election. It got resurrected
> > > > > subsequently.
> > > > >
> > > > > MKR
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@> wrote:
> > > > > > In ULT publications, and lectures, it's a policy not to sign the
> > > > > > articles or give out the names of the lecturers -- since
> theosophy
> > > > > > teachings must stand on their own, and there should be no
> reliance on
> > > > > > the authority, reputation or expertise of the writer/speaker. Ãâ
> If the
> > > >
> > > > > > unknown writer's or lecturer's identity is a mystery, then his
> > > > > > writings or talks can be evaluated on its content alone, not on
> his
> > > > > > name or reputation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the case of Adelante, we might assume he may be following
> those
> > > > > > rules and remaining anonymous -- which is in total accord with
> HPB's
> > > > > > teachings, and was used by William Q. Judge in many of his
> stories,
> > > > > > lectures and articles. Ãâ His real name only appeared on such
> works
> > > >
> > > > > > after he died, when students published his writings and lectures.
> > > > > > Although, he did use his name on most of his books.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judging by his postings, it's apparent that S.T. Adelante is a
> > > > > > student of HPB, and respects those closest to her original
> teachings
> > > > > > and foundation of the original TS in America.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LHM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 22, 2009, at 11/22/092:26 AM, MKR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Who is this mysterious S T Adelante?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Some months ago, I received a email from one S T Adelante who is
> the
> > > > > >> administrator of a quaint website which is supposed to address
> > > > > >> theosophyÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs future. In response I sent a email part of
> which I
> > > > quote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ÃÂÃâÂÃ"I am not familiar with your name. I see you have an UK
> email
> > > > address
> > > >
> > > > > >> and I suppose you are from that region. Which Lodge do you
> belong to
> > > > > >> and what are your specific areas of interest? Do you hold any
> offices
> > > > > >> in the TS?ÃÂÃâÂ
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Adelante has not responded till today. I just read in a short
> article
> > > > > >> on Internet regarding this personÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity. The article
> says
> > > > ÃÂÃâÂÃ"The
> > > >
> > > > > >> persons in charge of Theosophy Forward do not say in their
> website who
> > > > > >> they are, contrary to what is usual. The website manager uses
> the
> > > > > >> pseudonym ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ST AdelanteÃÂÃâ , and when some people asked
> for the
> > > > identity
> > > > > >> of the responsible of the website, the answer was: ÃÂÃâÂÃ"It is
> not
> > > > > >> necessary to know the people who are in chargeÃÂÃâ ÃÂÃâÂÃ"ÃÂÃâÂ
> .
> > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This is really strange coming from anyone interested in
> theosophy. The
> > > > > >> number of active theosophists worldwide is quite minuscule.
> Hence it
> > > > > >> is impossible to hide oneÃÂÃâÂÃâÂs identity unless they use a
> pseudonym. In
> > > >
> > > > > >> the Internet forums, in the past, some theosophists have used
> > > > > >> pseudonyms to avoid taking personal responsibility for their
> > > > > >> statements in Internet. But, in time, their identities were
> discovered
> > > > > >> to their public embarrassment.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I did some research about the website. It is registered with one
> Hans
> > > > > >> Kind of Kind Internet Services in Netherland as the
> administrative
> > > > > >> contact. Late last year, I got a confirmation that one Jan
> Nicolaas
> > > > > >> Kind was involved in it. Googling Kind and theosophy, one comes
> across
> > > > > >> Terezinha Franca Kind who is a General Council member and one of
> the
> > > > > >> nominators of John Algeo in the last Presidential Election. It
> is my
> > > > > >> understanding that he and Terezinha are related.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The mystery is deepening. We do not know if Adelante is the
> pseudonym
> > > > > >> of Jan or Terezinha or that of some one else who dares not put
> his/her
> > > > > >> own real name. It is not uncommon for some people to protect
> their
> > > > > >> good name to operate either under a pseudonym or use others as a
> > > > > >> front. Any way one day truth will come out and then we can all
> come to
> > > > > >> our own conclusions.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Anyone knows more about this mysterious Adelante???
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> MKR
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is no religion higher than truth
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> visit theosophy.net
> > > > > >>
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