Theos-Talk Archives (November 2009 Message tt00101)

Morten, 
Here is a Google Book Listing in regards to Ramalinga, on the list you can see specific books that mentions the very topic of this thread, it may help locate. 

Google Book Listing Ramalinga (Theosophical contact with Ramalinga) 

>>> http://books.google.com/books?q=Ramalinga+Prophecies&btnG=Search+Books<<< 

Vallahar of the Golden Body was a most interesting example. 
Regards, 
John 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 11:07:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: As early as 1889, Blavatsky told about the World Teacher? 






Dear friends 

My views are: 

I did not know that Ramalingam already expressed his prophecies in 1850. Can anyone document that? 

There have through centuries been prophecies about a coming World Teacher. In this there is nothing new. 
Many a village or city have had such prophecies through the centuries in India. 

Did Ramalingam make any clear references to where and who this world teacher would be? 
We can read that he talked about Mahatmas in the far North - (Himalayas). 

COMING EVENTS FORETOLD (Comment by H. P. Blavatsky - on the prophecy on the formation of the TS) 
"This is one of those cases of previous foretelling of a coming event, which is least of all open to suspicion of bad faith. The honourable character of the witness, the wide publicity of his Guruâs announcements, and the impossibility that he could have got from public rumour, or the journals of the day, any intimation that the Theosophical Society would be formed and would operate in Indiaâall these conspire to support the inference that Ramalingam Yogi was verily in the counsels of those who ordered us to found the Society. In March, 1873, we were directed to proceed from Russia to Paris. In June, we were told to proceed to the 
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United States, where we arrived July 6th.* This was the very time when Ramalingam was most forcibly prefiguring the events which should happen. In October, 1874, we received an intimation to go to Chittenden, Vermont, where, at the famous homestead of the Eddy family, Colonel Olcott was engaged in making his investigationsânow so celebrated in the annals of Spiritualismâof the so-called âmaterialization of Spirits.â November, 1875, the Theosophical Society was founded, and it was not until 1878, that the correspondence began with friends in India, which resulted in the transfer of the Societyâs Headquarters to Bombay in February, 1879. " 
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v4/y1882_066.htm 

M. Sufilight 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: MKR 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: As early as 1889, Blavatsky told about the World Teacher? 

I have been following the predictions of Saint Ramalingam. Could you give 
some reference about his prediction of the coming of World Teacher. Nothing 
surprises me because, he knew of the founding of TS and move of TS to India 
even before HPB knew about the founding of the TS. I would not be surprised 
if he himself was a great Initiate because outside the Brotherhood this 
information was not known at the time the Saint lived. 

Also could you give a reference to Radha Burnier's statement regarding the 
Saint foretelling WT comng. 

MKR 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM, sadhak1008 < whyviswanath@yahoo.com > wrote: 

> 
> 
> MKR, 
> 
> There are a few predictions about the World Teacher, some more detailed 
> than others. Historically speaking, the Tamil saint Ramalinga Swami was the 
> first person to predict not only about the coming of the World Teacher, but 
> also about the formation of the TS which he described as an organization 
> that would be formed by two foreigners and set up in Adyar for spreading 
> brotherhood. He further added that from this organization would emerge the 
> next WT who would spread this message all over the world. Though he stated 
> this around 1850 it has been long ignored by both the TS and even the K 
> foundations. Neither HPB, AB, or CWL were really the originators of the WT 
> prophecy. May be they were not aware of the swami and did not know Tamil to 
> realize the earlier prophecy. 
> 
> Thankfully, Radha Burnier finally acknowledged this publicly a few years 
> back. You know, there is nothing higher than truth, so what if it takes 150 
> years?!! 
> 
> Viswanath 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR 
> <mkr777@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > As I recall, during her life time, no one knows if HPB knew of the Coming 
> of 
> > the World Teacher and even if she knew, according to Besant, she gave no 
> > hints even to those most closely connected with her. 
> > 
> > MKR 
> > 
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Spirituality <mail@...>wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Good question. Lutyens is not generally very reliable when it comes to 
> old 
> > > style theosophy, so she probably got it out of the besant leadbeater 
> rumor 
> > > mill. Perhaps some old article by one or the other. 
> > > 
> > > It's not in the Inner Group Teachings, which means that if Blavatsky 
> did 
> > > tell some of her students this, it was in an informal setting, not in 
> the 
> > > setting of a formal studygroup. We're in the same bag on this one as on 
> the 
> > > Bowen Notes: said to be a report of something Blavatsky said, but we 
> don't 
> > > have the sources to back it up. Nor are we likely to get to such 
> sources. 
> > > 
> > > That isn't to say it's certain to be untrue. 
> > > 
> > > One thing we do know: IF Blavatsky talked about such a teacher, as 
> Besant 
> > > said, she expected him later than Krishnamurti came. 
> > > 
> > > Katinka 
> > > 
> 
> 
> 

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