Theos-Talk Archives (November 2009 Message tt00102)

MKR,

> Nothing
> surprises me because, he knew of the founding of TS and move of TS to India
> even before HPB knew about the founding of the TS. I would not be surprised
> if he himself was a great Initiate because outside the Brotherhood this
> information was not known at the time the Saint lived.

It is easy to get bogged down in the world of TS and its terminology, but it is hardly a revelation that brotherhood and concern for humanity has existed for centuries long before the TS and exists outside the TS. Only fancy terms like Initiate are not used.  Ramalinga swami was actually responding to people who thought his ideas were far fetched. 

> Also could you give a reference to Radha Burnier's statement regarding the
> Saint foretelling WT comng.
> 
> MKR

I am not in Madras now. But a few years ago I read the monthly TS publication and there was an article where Radha Burnier had mentioned this. A few of us read this and said "finally"! If you have access to the publication, you may want to get the issues from 1998 onwards but I think it was prior to 2005. I will look for it if I happen to visit Krotona.

Viswanath








> 
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM, sadhak1008 <whyviswanath@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > MKR,
> >
> > There are a few predictions about the World Teacher, some more detailed
> > than others. Historically speaking, the Tamil saint Ramalinga Swami was the
> > first person to predict not only about the coming of the World Teacher, but
> > also about the formation of the TS which he described as an organization
> > that would be formed by two foreigners and set up in Adyar for spreading
> > brotherhood. He further added that from this organization would emerge the
> > next WT who would spread this message all over the world. Though he stated
> > this around 1850 it has been long ignored by both the TS and even the K
> > foundations. Neither HPB, AB, or CWL were really the originators of the WT
> > prophecy. May be they were not aware of the swami and did not know Tamil to
> > realize the earlier prophecy.
> >
> > Thankfully, Radha Burnier finally acknowledged this publicly a few years
> > back. You know, there is nothing higher than truth, so what if it takes 150
> > years?!!
> >
> > Viswanath
> >
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I recall, during her life time, no one knows if HPB knew of the Coming
> > of
> > > the World Teacher and even if she knew, according to Besant, she gave no
> > > hints even to those most closely connected with her.
> > >
> > > MKR
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Spirituality <mail@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good question. Lutyens is not generally very reliable when it comes to
> > old
> > > > style theosophy, so she probably got it out of the besant leadbeater
> > rumor
> > > > mill. Perhaps some old article by one or the other.
> > > >
> > > > It's not in the Inner Group Teachings, which means that if Blavatsky
> > did
> > > > tell some of her students this, it was in an informal setting, not in
> > the
> > > > setting of a formal studygroup. We're in the same bag on this one as on
> > the
> > > > Bowen Notes: said to be a report of something Blavatsky said, but we
> > don't
> > > > have the sources to back it up. Nor are we likely to get to such
> > sources.
> > > >
> > > > That isn't to say it's certain to be untrue.
> > > >
> > > > One thing we do know: IF Blavatsky talked about such a teacher, as
> > Besant
> > > > said, she expected him later than Krishnamurti came.
> > > >
> > > > Katinka
> > > >
> >
> >  
> >
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