Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00292)

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:08 AM, robertapimenta26 <
robertapimenta26@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Have been travelling for some time, was not able to contribute to this
> blessed site. Have read many comments and I am sorry to say, I think I will
> look for other communities.
>
> I am absolutely shocked by what Mr. MKR is speading, it is all words and no
> substance. Some weeks ago, before my travel, I went through great pains
> trying to show him the other side of things, but whatever you try, whatever
> you do, he will constantly repeat (copy and paste) his utter nonsense. He
> lives by exploiting mistrust, accusations and nasty insinuations, accusing
> people not to be real people, whilst he is the only one who is very unreal.
> He plays a very childish cat and mouse game, and is very destructive. He
> really believes he is very smart, but obviously he isn't, and seeing the
> reactions he is losing his audience very rapidly.
>
> I do sincerely apologize for the fact that this is rather personal, but
> someone has to blow the whistle here!!! Please, do not believe what I write:
> go to the archives and read his comments. This is not how theosophists or
> seekers for Truth ought to ommunicate with each other. I am considering to
> write a letter of complaint to the site owner.
>
> Now for as far as Mr. Nigel's contribution is concerned: I believe that you
> are really making good points. I wiah to add that there is a document
> circulating on the net, taking the Keith Fisher clarifications totally
> apart. I only had a brief look at it, but unfortunately I deleted it whilst
> travelling. Perhaps this should appear here.
>
> Have also briefly read Mr. Anands discussion on another site and it was a
> delight to see how well and how interesting this all developed. Need some
> more time to look into it.
>
> Mr. Rozman's site is very valuable for earnest seekers and investigators.
>
> I am still on the road, so to speak, but in a few weeks I will see most of
> you probably on some other site.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "nhcareyta" <nhcareyta@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mkr and all
> >
> > Further to my last post please find the following addresses
> > which may be of interest.
> >
> > 1) A website hosted by Anton Rozman comprising a compilation
> > of documents and statements entitled, "Pages dedicated to the documents,
> comments and views regarding the actual situation
> > in the Theosophical Society and regarding its future."
> > http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/tsindex.htm
> >
> > 2) Betty Bland's original "Draft Proposed Amendment."
> > Note the words "Draft" and "Proposed" and that it is in accord with,
> "...the provisions of international rules 5 and 49."
> > <http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/RulesChanges_BlandLetter_E.htm>
> >
> > 3) Your (Mkr) letter in response to Mrs Bland's draft proposal.
> > You date this 24.9.2009. If this is correct, this is 3 months prior to
> the actual meeting to discuss the draft proposal.
> > <http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/RulesChanges_MKRamadossLetter.htm>
> >
> > If something is proposed 3 three months prior to the meeting of
> deliberation, and is in accordance with the international rules, how is this
> such a heinous act?
> >
> > Regards
> > Nigel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Let us get all the facts out. Nobody need to fear Truth and let the
> chips
> > > fall where they may.
> > >
> > > The ultra secret attempt to take over the appointment of the president
> by a
> > > small group of general council members by disenfranchising all the
> members
> > > worldwide is based on the facts everyone has seen. If anyone has any
> > > information contradicting the facts, let them post it here for all of
> us get
> > > educated.
> > >
> > > MKR
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Preethi and all
> > > >
> > > > It now appears from your comments that there was much more to
> > > > the attempt to offer another President for the Adyar Theosophical
> > > > Society at the last international convention.
> > > >
> > > > And it is certainly becoming apparent that the so called "ultra
> secret
> > > > attempt" idea, promulgated repeatedly by Doss (Mkr), may
> > > > not have been so after all.
> > > >
> > > > Inferring from what you expose, and from what others have
> > > > written, the procedure for presenting an alternative voting system
> > > > for international president was both in accord with the rules and
> > > > in the interests of fair play, but may have been politically
> manipulated by
> > > > those in Adyar to appear differently?
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any direct knowledge of this process as it unfolded
> > > > at Adyar?
> > > >
> > > > And can you cast any light as to why Mary Anderson nominated
> > > > John Algeo for president, after having worked closely with Radha
> > > > Burnier at Adyar for so many years?
> > > >
> > > > You are presenting us with a system that appears prima facie
> > > > rotten to the core, exposing favouritism, nepotism and political
> > > > machinations of the worst kind. I am sure genuine seekers after
> > > > truth appreciate your candid expose and trust others will acknowledge
> your
> > > > facts with impartiality rather than blind fanaticism.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nigel
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "seeker_preethi" <seeker_preethi@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mrs Burnier,
> > > > >
> > > > > Trust you have started to feel regret, remorse and all those
> > > > growth-oriented feelings. Some things i forgot to mention in my last
> email
> > > > [No subject] to you:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you see the latest issue of Wake Up India? The contents page
> has a
> > > > big blunder on it. Your name is mentioned for the Editorial Article
> while
> > > > the article was written by Mr Surendra Narayan. Of course, the
> article has
> > > > his name on it as does the 'About the Author' section, but how could
> your
> > > > Editor, Dr Geetha Jaikumar miss such an obvious error? I now know why
> Dr A.
> > > > Kannan thought that i had written irrelevant things in my initial
> emails to
> > > > you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, do you know there are common definitions for everything
> you do?
> > > > For example:
> > > > >
> > > > > Putting your name on someone else's hard work is called Plagiarism.
> > > > Geetha Jaikumar and Subha Nilakanta have been putting their name on
> > > > Preethi's hard work. Of course, you endorse their plagiarism, don't
> you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Threatening people with imprisonment so that they will not speak
> the
> > > > truth and be dishonest is called Hooliganism or in Hindi,
> Goondagardi. That
> > > > is the usual language spoken by Mr S. Harihara Raghavan, General
> Manager,
> > > > TS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using fear to rule people is called Dictatorship. That is the
> behaviour
> > > > you follow with Federation Secretaries, General Secretaries
> worldwide.
> > > > >
> > > > > Following one rule for Pedro Oliveira, one for Uma Nilakanta, and
> one for
> > > > everyone else is called favouritism.
> > > > >
> > > > > And in the July 2009 issue of the Theosophist you have also lied
> openly
> > > > Mrs Burnier. In Theosophical Work around the World, you mention that
> Mrs
> > > > Linda Oliveira attended the 2008 Convention as international
> Vice-President.
> > > > That is a lie, Mrs Burnier, because Mrs Oliveira did not attend the
> 2008
> > > > international Convention. She was admitted in Isabelle Hospital along
> with
> > > > her husband, Mr Pedro Oliveira with a bad case of Chikungunia during
> the
> > > > entire period of the international Convention. They did not get back
> from
> > > > hospital till 5 January 2009, much after the Convention period is
> over.
> > > > Remember, Mrs Burnier, your pets Pedro and Linda did not even get to
> address
> > > > the convention gathering, even though their speeches were ready and
> waiting
> > > > at the Editorial Office.
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact, when you illegally appointed Mrs Linda Oliveira early in
> > > > November 2008 as IVP, the machines at the Editorial Office put up a
> strong
> > > > fight. The Nova Sheet printer converted itself into a house for
> thousands of
> > > > ants. It was an issue filled with breaks, gaps, problems and
> obstacles of
> > > > every kind.
> > > > >
> > > > > And now see how, Mrs Burnier, "Theosophists" can no longer have the
> > > > privilege of having their bodies exhumed on campus of Adyar. Dr
> Agarwal had
> > > > his final rites not on campus at Adyar, as past deceased Theosophists
> have
> > > > had, but outside the campus at Besant Nagar Electrical Crematorium,
> and C.
> > > > Malathi's father at Thiruvanmiyur Electrical Crematorium.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why i am bringing all of this to your and other members' attention
> is
> > > > because you can kick out Preethi from her home Adyar, but you cannot
> fight
> > > > the Forces of Adyar, the Forces of Nature and the Force of Life, who
> are all
> > > > stronger than you or all your cronies put together will ever be.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is time for you to step down from your post Mrs Burnier and to
> allow
> > > > younger blood and younger generations to lead the TS, someone more
> spiritual
> > > > than you are; someone more Theosophical, united than you are.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was shocked to read your Watch-Tower Notes in the July 2009 issue
> of
> > > > the Theosophist, where you stress so much on Brahminism as being the
> > > > criterion for a person to be accepted as a chela. So finally in your
> > > > declining years, shall we say you have come back to your element and
> now are
> > > > intending to practise casteism in the form of offering chelaship to
> brahmins
> > > > by birth? And who would be your most preferred candidate -- Subha
> Nilakanta
> > > > or Harihara Raghavan?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is, indeed, shocking from someone who claims to be a
> 3rd-generation
> > > > Theosophist. Shocking not only because of the casteist-flavour of
> your
> > > > statements in the Theosophist, but also because one would expect that
> the
> > > > head of the EST would know that chelaship or being a vehicle for the
> Masters
> > > > of the Wisdom has got nothing to do with birth but more to do with
> the
> > > > quality of the soul.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recipients to this email/message, welcome to the Brahminical
> Society of
> > > > Mrs Radha Burnier, who fraudulently addresses herself as the
> President of
> > > > the Theosophical Society.
> > > > >
> > > > > Preethi
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
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