Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00175)

No, the more important question is why would anyone even care.  We do  not 
work at that level.  We have no need of concerning ourselves with  it.  Such 
things will occur on their own, naturally.  
 
It is a waste of time to even bother with such matters.
 
Chuck the heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2009 7:35:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


Interesting question arises from this - how do the monads present  
themselves awakening into a new  manvantara?

Cass

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>From: Martin <_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) >
>To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Thursday, 9 July, 2009 6:10:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy
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>True, according  KH, Mars is awaking from pralaya...
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>--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Cass  Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass> wrote:
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>From: Cass  Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass>
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro  ups.com
>Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:01 AM
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>I thought  earthlings preceded martians?    Although I am very hazy on  
this subject - read years ago that in the next manvantara humans evolve  to 
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in the  middle 
between mars and  venus?
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>Cass
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>>From:  "Augoeides-222@ comcast.net" <Augoeides-222@ comcast.net>
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10  PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy
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>>Cass,  Morten, 
>>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small  residual of 
Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original species that  had been there 
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle.  
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>>John 
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>>---- Original Message  ----- 
>>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>  
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, July  8, 2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>Subject: Re:  Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy  
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>>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars,  and probably like 
us enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot  spring. lol They 
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth!  
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>>Cass 
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>>>  
>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk  > 
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent:  Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54 AM 
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World  Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>>Interesting. 
>>>Some of them must, as I see it,  be considered to have been created by 
ordinary humans, because their creation  are imprecise and angles incorrect 
or non-symmetrical, where they aught to be  so. 
>>> 
>>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the  bottom. 
>>> 
>>>I remineded me of the following from  H. P. Blavatsky: 
>>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets  and imagine that if they 
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we  are. The fancy of 
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent  even the angels as a 
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this  is an error and a 
delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds  such a diversity 
in its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the  cedar of 
Lebanon, from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and  negro to the 
Apollo Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and  there must be 
as a result quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same  laws will 
fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our  plane, 
including in it all our planets. How much more different then must be  
external nature in other Solar systems, and how foolish is it to judge of  other 
stars and worlds and human beings by our own, as physical  
>>science does! " 
>>> 
>>>Did someone say  that Aliens live on Mars? 
>>> 
>>>M. Sufilight  
>>> 
>>>----- Original Message -----  
>>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net 
>>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55  PM 
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
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>>>Morten, 
>>>Here is  a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific 
message some  alledge: 
>>> 
>>>>>> _http://www.earthfil_ (http://www.earthfil/)   es.com/news. 
php?ID=1578& category= Environment< <<  
>>> 
>>>And because the message is about the Sun's  activity here are the Solar 
Observatory SOHO links: 
>>>  
>>>The Solar and Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO) 
>>>  
>>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)  nascom.nasa. gov/home.  
html<<< 
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>>>The Latest SOHO Images  
>>> 
>>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)  nascom.nasa. gov/data/ 
realtime-  images.html< << 
>>> 
>>>John  
>>> 
>>>----- Original Message -----  
>>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet.  dk> 
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent:  Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
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>>>Yes. The links says the  following: 
>>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as  completely secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of  traditional esotericism had 
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern  culture, including the 
search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and  the study of religions. 
It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena  Blavatsky, a Russian 
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry  Olcott in New York in 
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and  Western traditions 
in an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main  aims: 
>>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of  Humanity, without 
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour.  
>>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy  and 
science. 
>>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and  the powers latent in 
man." 
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>>>- - -  
>>> 
>>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the  Vatican telling them, that 
the above is not entirely true. 
>>>  
>>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the  Constitutions just 
before H. P. Blavatsky died was: 
>>>  
>>>"The objects of the Theosophical Society are: First. - To form  the 
nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of  race, 
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of Aryan and  
other Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and to  
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To investigate unexplained  laws 
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. " 
>>>(The  Theosophist - January 1891) 
>>> 
>>>- - -  
>>> 
>>>Further one aught to realize that the  original aims when The 
Theosophical Society was formed had the following  somewhat different words, which the 
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore  omits in its official Internet 
article: 
>>> 
>>>"The  objects of the society are, to collect and diffuse a knowledge of 
the laws  which govern the universe." 
>>>... 
>>>"Preamble of  the T.S. 
>>> 
>>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in  The Theosophical Forum, September 
1947, pp. 515-18 
>>>The title  of the Theosophical Society explains the objects and desires 
of its founders:  they seek "to obtain knowledge of the nature and 
attributes of the Supreme  Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of physical 
processes." In other  words, they hope, that by going deeper than modern 
science has hitherto done,  into the esoteric philosophies of ancient times, they 
may be enabled to  obtain, for themselves and other investigators, proof of 
the existence of an  "Unseen Universe," the nature of its inhabitants, if 
such there be, and the  laws which govern them and their relations with 
mankind. 
>>>  
>>>Whatever may be the private opinions of its members, the  society has no 
dogmas to enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed  neither as a 
Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any  sectarian or 
philosophic body. Its only axiom is the omnipotence of truth, its  only creed 
a profession of unqualified devotion to its discovery and  propagation. In 
considering the qualifications of applicants for membership,  it knows 
neither race, sex, color, country nor creed. 
>>>  
>>>That all the members of a society should acquire an equal  degree of 
knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected.  Knowledge is 
always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and  
susceptibility to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the  most 
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain or attain. To all,  however, 
are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle and conduct, and love  of 
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a long  
course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman has to 
 serve his apprenticeship before he can be journeyman or master. So 
theosophy,  which claims to teach the vital points of science and art, exacts from 
its  adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish 
devotion,  an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a purity of life and 
thought  commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed task,  before
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>>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and  intrusting them with 
powers not shared by meaner souls. 
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>>>The founders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with  a solemn 
conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the  difficulties, 
intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which  the 
Spiritualists have neglected, the Materialists have not attempted, and the  Theologians 
have misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather  than a 
conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animated  solely by 
an earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may be found;  and 
esteem no obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them for  
relinquishing it. 
>>> 
>>>They look in vain to the  Church for such evidence of immortality as 
will satisfy the exactions of a  fearless reason; in vain to her opponents for 
an explanation of the  preterhuman experiences of mankind, from the earliest 
periods. The  Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations with 
the departed, are  unable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the 
longing of the race for  a practical demonstration of its future existence goes 
unsatisfied; the laws  of intercommunication between the visible and the 
invisible worlds are not  accurately defined; and the problem of the two 
eternities which bound this  life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of 
churches and academies."  .......and more....... 
>>> 
>>> _http://www.theosoci_ (http://www.theosoci/)   ety.org/pasadena 
/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm 
>>> 
>>>M.  Sufilight says: 
>>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern  literature aught not to be 
rooted out just because the Vatican and its useful  puppets have the aim to 
promote the idea. 
>>>  
>>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern  doctrines on 
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this  we will have 
to recognize. - Some have sought to build a bridge between them  and 
calling such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put  their 
own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never be  based 
on a blind belief where rest of reason is promoted and the possible  
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom Teachings operates through  
groups and organisations carrying various names and not only those who pride  
themselves by the use of the name "theosophical" . And we will know them on  
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest search 
 after the truth without multicultural religiously- related bigotry.  
>>> 
>>>M. Sufilight 
>>>  
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Anand  
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent: Tuesday,  July 07, 2009 9:21 AM 
>>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic  Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>>I got this link  just now. 
>>> _http://www.vatican._ (http://www.vatican./)  va/roman_ curia/pontif
ical  _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_ doc_20030203_ new-age_en. 
html  
>>>Best 
>>>Anand Gholap 
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