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Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy

Jul 09, 2009 03:40 PM
by Martin


I was thinking the same thing, hahaha
However, why would He rush anything, because He said He came in a hurry?
If I rush things, half the world is in turmoil...

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:47 PM

It's part of the World Teacher thing. It comes with the job.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2009 1:48:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


Lol, you make me curious, what is so important to rush then?

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) 
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >Â wrote:

From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)Â <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
Subject:Â Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:47 PM

Oh, we don't have time for that sort of nonsense.

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 7/9/2009 10:51:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com)ÂÂÂwrites:

Die Welle ( The Wave ), a story about dictatorship: Chuck , who would you 
say to be head of policestate Earth first? George Bushington the 2d?

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Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@To: _theos-talTo: _theos-_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) )Â 
Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 4:31 PM

Oh, we have not gotten to the well yet.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:14:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
__Mvandertak@_Mvandert_ (mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva) _Â 
(mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) )ÂÂÂwrites:

Chuck is diving deep now, guys:)

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Subject:Â Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on NewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy
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Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:38 AM

There were no earthlings or martians. It is all an illusion ofÂÂÂMaya.

Chuck the heretic

In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,ÂÂÂ
__silva_cass@__silva_cass@<WBR>___silva_cass@_silva_ca_ 
(mailto:_silva_cass@yahoo.sil) ) _ÂÂÂ
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(mailto:_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) )Â )ÂÂÂwrites:

I thought earthlings preceded martians?  Although I amÂÂÂvery hazy on 
this 
subject - read years ago that in the nextÂÂÂmanvantara humans evolve to 
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in the 
middle 
between marsÂÂÂandÂÂÂvenus?

Cass

>
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>Sent:Â Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10Â PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church onÂÂÂNewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy
>
>
>
>
>
>Cass,ÂÂÂMorten,ÂÂÂ
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a smallÂÂÂresidual of 
Intelligences remained upon Mars from theÂÂÂOriginal species that had been 
there 
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle. 
>
>JohnÂÂÂ
>
>----Â Original Message -----Â 
>From: "Cass Silva"ÂÂÂ<silva_cass@silva_cass> 
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8,ÂÂÂ2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/TheosophyÂÂÂ
>
>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, andÂÂÂprobably 
like 
us 
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hotÂÂÂspring. lol They 
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth! 
>
>Cass 
>
>>Â 
>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <ÂÂÂglobal-theosophy@ stofanet. dk >ÂÂÂ
>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54 AM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
>> 
>>Â 
>>Â 
>>Â 
>>Â 
>>Interesting.ÂÂÂ
>>Some of them must, as I see it, be considered to have beenÂÂÂcreated 
by 
ordinary humans, because their creation areÂÂÂimprecise and angles 
incorrect or 
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.ÂÂÂ
>> 
>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom. 
>> 
>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:ÂÂÂ
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that if 
they 
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of 
 
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the 
angels 
as a 
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and 
a 

delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a 
diversityÂÂÂ
inÂÂÂits flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of 
Lebanon, 
from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to the 
ApolloÂÂÂBelvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and there 
must be 
as aÂÂÂresult quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same laws 
will 
fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our 
plane, 
including in it all our planets.ÂÂÂHow much more different then must be 
external nature in other SolarÂÂÂsystems, and how foolish is it to judge 
of 
other 
stars andÂÂÂworldsÂÂÂand human beings by our own, as physicalÂÂÂ
>science does! "Â 
>>Â 
>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars? 
>>Â 
>>M. Sufilight 
>> 
>>----- Original Message -----ÂÂÂ
>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.netÂÂÂ
>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
>> 
>>Morten,ÂÂÂ
>>Here is a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific 
message some alledge:ÂÂÂ
>>ÂÂÂ
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>>Â 
>>And because the message is about the Sun's activity here are the 
Solar 

Observatory SOHO links: 
>>Â 
>>The Solar andÂÂÂHeliospheric Home Page (SOHO) 
>>ÂÂÂ
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>>Â 
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>>Â 
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>>ÂÂÂ
>>John 
>>Â 
>>----- Original Message -----ÂÂÂ
>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> 
>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AMÂÂÂGMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
>>Â 
>>Yes. The links says the following:ÂÂÂ
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by someÂÂÂasÂÂÂcompletely secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism 
had 
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modernÂÂÂculture, including 
the 
search for causal laws,ÂÂÂevolutionism, psychology and the study of 
religions. It 
reached its clearest form in the ideas of HelenaÂÂÂBlavatsky, a Russian 
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New 
York 
inÂÂÂ
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern andÂÂÂWestern 
traditions in 
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main aims: 
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, 
without 
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour. 
>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy and 
science.ÂÂÂ
>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent 
in 
man."ÂÂÂ
>> 
>>- - -Â 
>>Â 
>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,ÂÂÂ
that 
the above is not entirely true. 
>>Â 
>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just 
before H. P. BlavatskyÂÂÂdied was: 
>> 
>>"The objects of the TheosophicalÂÂÂSociety are: First. - To form the 
nucleus of a UniversalÂÂÂBrotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of 
race,ÂÂÂ
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of Aryan 
and 
other 
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and to 
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - ToÂÂÂinvestigate 
unexplained laws 
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. " 
>>(TheÂÂÂTheosophist - January 1891) 
>>Â 
>>- -Â -ÂÂÂ
>> 
>>Further one aught to realizeÂÂÂthat the original aims when The 
Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat different 
words, which the 
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its official 
Internet 

article:Â 
>>Â 
>>"The objects of the society are, to collect andÂÂÂdiffuse a knowledge 
of 
the laws which govern theÂÂÂuniverse." 
>>... 
>>"Preamble of the T.S.ÂÂÂ
>>ÂÂÂ
>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum,ÂÂÂ
September 
1947, pp. 515-18 
>>The title of the Theosophical SocietyÂÂÂexplains the objects and 
desires 
of its founders: they seekÂÂÂ"to obtainÂÂÂknowledge of the nature and 
attributes 
of the Supreme Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of physical 
processes." In other words, they hope, that byÂÂÂgoing deeper than modern 
 
science 
has hitherto done, into the esoteric philosophies of ancient times, 
they 
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves and other investigators, 
proof 
of 
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," theÂÂÂnature of its inhabitants, 
if 

such there be, and the laws which govern them and their relations with 
mankind. 
>>Â 
>>Whatever may be theÂÂÂprivate opinions of its members, the society has 
no 
dogmasÂÂÂto enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as a 
Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any 
sectarian 
or 
philosophic body. Its onlyÂÂÂaxiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only 
creed a 
profession of unqualifiedÂÂÂdevotion to its discovery and propagation. In 
 
considering the qualifications of applicants for membership, it knows 
neither 
race, sex, color, country nor creed. 
>> 
>>That all the members of a society shouldÂÂÂacquire an equal degree of 
knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected. 
Knowledge 
is 
always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and 
susceptibilityÂÂÂ
to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the most 
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtainÂÂÂorÂÂÂattain. To all, 
however, 
are alike indispensable, rectitude ofÂÂÂprinciple and conduct, and love 
of 
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a 
long 
course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman 
has to 
serve hisÂÂÂapprenticeship before he can beÂÂÂjourneyman or master. So 
theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points ofÂÂÂscience and art, 
exacts from 
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish 
 
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and aÂÂÂpurity of 
life 
and 
thought commensurate with the nature of theirÂÂÂself-imposed task, before 
>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with 
powers 
not shared by meaner souls. 
>>Â 
>>TheÂÂÂfounders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a 
solemn 
conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties, 
intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which the 
Spiritualists have neglected, theÂÂÂMaterialists have not attempted, and 
the TheologiansÂÂÂ
haveÂÂÂmisunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a 
 
conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animated 
solely 
by an 
earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it mayÂÂÂbe found; and 
esteem noÂÂÂobstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them 
for 

relinquishing it. 
>> 
>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence of immortality as 
willÂÂÂ
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to her opponents 
for 
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind,ÂÂÂfrom the 
earliest 
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations 
with 
the departed, areÂÂÂunable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the 
 
longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its future 
existence 
goes 
unsatisfied; the laws ofÂÂÂintercommunication between the visible and the 
invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of theÂÂÂ
two 
eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude 
of 

churches 
and academies." .......and more....... 
>> 
>> ____http://www.theosocihtt_ (http://www.theosociht_/)Â 
(_http://www.theosocihtt_ (http://www.theosocih_/) )Â 
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>> 
>>M. Sufilight says: 
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught notÂÂÂto be 
rooted 
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim to 
promote the idea. 
>> 
>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern doctrines on 
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this we 
will 
have 
to recognize. - Some have sought toÂÂÂbuild a bridge between them and 
calling 
such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put their 
own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never be 
 
based 
on a blind belief where rest of reason isÂÂÂpromotedÂÂÂand the possible 
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the WisdomÂÂÂTeachings operates 
through groups 
and organisations carrying various names and not only those who pride 
themselves by the use of the nameÂÂÂ"theosophical" . And we will know 
them 
on 
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest 
 
search 
after the truth without multicultural religiously- related bigotry. 
>>ÂÂÂ
>>M. Sufilight 
>>ÂÂÂ
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Anand 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:21 AMÂÂÂ
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church onÂÂÂNewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy 
>> 
>>I got this link just now. 
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curia/pontifical _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_ 
doc_20030203_ new-age_en. 
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>>Anand Gholap 
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