Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
Jul 09, 2009 03:40 PM
by Martin
I was thinking the same thing, hahaha
However, why would He rush anything, because He said He came in a hurry?
If I rush things, half the world is in turmoil...
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From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:47 PM
It's part of the World Teacher thing. It comes with the job.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009 1:48:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,Â
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:
Lol, you make me curious, what is so important to rush then?
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(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
Subject:Â Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:47 PM
Oh, we don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009Â 10:51:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,Â
_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com)ÂÂÂwrites:
Die Welle ( The Wave ), a story about dictatorship: Chuck , who would youÂ
say to be head of policestate Earth first? George Bushington the 2d?
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Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@To: _theos-talTo: _theos-_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_
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Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 4:31 PM
Oh, we have not gotten to the well yet.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:14:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,Â
__Mvandertak@_Mvandert_ (mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva) _Â
(mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) )ÂÂÂwrites:
Chuck is diving deep now, guys:)
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Subject:Â Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on NewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy
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Date:Â Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:38 AM
There were no earthlings or martians. It is all an illusion ofÂÂÂMaya.
Chuck the heretic
In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,ÂÂÂ
__silva_cass@__silva_cass@<WBR>___silva_cass@_silva_ca_
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I thought earthlings preceded martians?  Although I amÂÂÂvery hazy onÂ
this
subject - read years ago that in the nextÂÂÂmanvantara humans evolve to
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in theÂ
middle
between marsÂÂÂandÂÂÂvenus?
Cass
>
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>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church onÂÂÂNewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy
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>
>Cass,ÂÂÂMorten,ÂÂÂ
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a smallÂÂÂresidual ofÂ
Intelligences remained upon Mars from theÂÂÂOriginal species that had been
thereÂ
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle.
>
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>From: "Cass Silva"ÂÂÂ<silva_cass@silva_cass>Â
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.comÂ
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8,ÂÂÂ2009 7:08:44 PM GMTÂ -08:00 US/Canada PacificÂ
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/TheosophyÂÂÂ
>
>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, andÂÂÂprobably
like
usÂ
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hotÂÂÂspring. lol They
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth!Â
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>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/TheosophyÂ
>>
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>>Some of them must, as I see it, be considered to have beenÂÂÂcreated
by
ordinary humans, because their creation areÂÂÂimprecise and angles
incorrect orÂ
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.ÂÂÂ
>>
>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom.Â
>>
>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:ÂÂÂ
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that ifÂ
they
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the
angels
as aÂ
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and
a
delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a
diversityÂÂÂ
inÂÂÂits flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of
Lebanon,Â
from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to the
ApolloÂÂÂBelvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and thereÂ
must be
as aÂÂÂresult quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same lawsÂ
will
fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our
plane,Â
including in it all our planets.ÂÂÂHow much more different then must be
external nature in other SolarÂÂÂsystems, and how foolish is it to judge
of
other
stars andÂÂÂworldsÂÂÂand human beings by our own, as physicalÂÂÂ
>science does! "Â
>>Â
>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars?Â
>>Â
>>M. SufilightÂ
>>
>>----- Original Message -----ÂÂÂ
>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.netÂÂÂ
>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PMÂ
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/TheosophyÂ
>>
>>Morten,ÂÂÂ
>>Here is a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientificÂ
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>>----- Original Message -----ÂÂÂ
>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>To:ÂÂÂtheos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent:Â Tuesday, July 7, 2009Â 9:21:39 AMÂÂÂGMT -08:00 US/Canada PacificÂ
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/TheosophyÂ
>>Â
>>Yes. The links says the following:ÂÂÂ
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by someÂÂÂasÂÂÂcompletely secularised.
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism
hadÂ
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modernÂÂÂculture, includingÂ
the
search for causal laws,ÂÂÂevolutionism, psychology and the study of
religions. ItÂ
reached its clearest form in the ideas of HelenaÂÂÂBlavatsky, a Russian
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New
YorkÂ
inÂÂÂ
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern andÂÂÂWesternÂ
traditions in
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main aims:Â
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity,
without
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour.
>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy andÂ
science.ÂÂÂ
>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent
in
man."ÂÂÂ
>>
>>- - -Â
>>Â
>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,ÂÂÂ
that
the above is not entirely true.Â
>>Â
>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just
before H. P. BlavatskyÂÂÂdied was:
>>
>>"The objects of the TheosophicalÂÂÂSociety are: First. - To form the
nucleus of a UniversalÂÂÂBrotherhood of Humanity, without distinction ofÂ
race,ÂÂÂ
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of AryanÂ
and
other
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and toÂ
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - ToÂÂÂinvestigate
unexplained laws
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. "Â
>>(TheÂÂÂTheosophist - January 1891)
>>Â
>>- -Â -ÂÂÂ
>>
>>Further one aught to realizeÂÂÂthat the original aims when The
Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat differentÂ
words, which the
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its official
Internet
article:Â
>>Â
>>"The objects of the society are, to collect andÂÂÂdiffuse a knowledge
of
the laws which govern theÂÂÂuniverse."Â
>>...
>>"Preamble of the T.S.ÂÂÂ
>>ÂÂÂ
>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum,ÂÂÂ
September
1947, pp. 515-18Â
>>The title of the Theosophical SocietyÂÂÂexplains the objects and
desires
of its founders: they seekÂÂÂ"to obtainÂÂÂknowledge of the nature and
attributes
of the Supreme Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of physical
processes." In other words, they hope, that byÂÂÂgoing deeper than modern
scienceÂ
has hitherto done, into the esoteric philosophies of ancient times,Â
they
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves and other investigators,Â
proof
of
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," theÂÂÂnature of its inhabitants,
if
such there be, and the laws which govern them and their relations withÂ
mankind.
>>Â
>>Whatever may be theÂÂÂprivate opinions of its members, the society has
no
dogmasÂÂÂto enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as aÂ
Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any
sectarian
or
philosophic body. Its onlyÂÂÂaxiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only
creed aÂ
profession of unqualifiedÂÂÂdevotion to its discovery and propagation. In
considering the qualifications of applicants for membership, it knows
neither
race, sex, color, country nor creed.Â
>>
>>That all the members of a society shouldÂÂÂacquire an equal degree of
knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected.
Knowledge
isÂ
always progressive, and proportional to natural capability andÂ
susceptibilityÂÂÂ
to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the most
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtainÂÂÂorÂÂÂattain. To all,
however,
are alike indispensable, rectitude ofÂÂÂprinciple and conduct, and love
ofÂ
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a
long
course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsmanÂ
has to
serve hisÂÂÂapprenticeship before he can beÂÂÂjourneyman or master. SoÂ
theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points ofÂÂÂscience and art,
exacts fromÂ
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and aÂÂÂpurity of
life
and
thought commensurate with the nature of theirÂÂÂself-imposed task, before
>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with
powersÂ
not shared by meaner souls.Â
>>Â
>>TheÂÂÂfounders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a
solemnÂ
conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties,
intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which theÂ
Spiritualists have neglected, theÂÂÂMaterialists have not attempted, and
the TheologiansÂÂÂ
haveÂÂÂmisunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a
conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animatedÂ
solely
by anÂ
earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it mayÂÂÂbe found; and
esteem noÂÂÂobstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them
for
relinquishing it.Â
>>
>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence of immortality as
willÂÂÂ
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to her opponentsÂ
forÂ
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind,ÂÂÂfrom the
earliest
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations
with
the departed, areÂÂÂunable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the
longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its futureÂ
existenceÂ
goes
unsatisfied; the laws ofÂÂÂintercommunication between the visible and the
invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of theÂÂÂ
two
eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude
of
churchesÂ
and academies." .......and more.......
>>
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>>
>>M. Sufilight says:Â
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught notÂÂÂto beÂ
rooted
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim to
promote the idea.Â
>>
>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern doctrines onÂ
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this we
will
haveÂ
to recognize. - Some have sought toÂÂÂbuild a bridge between them and
callingÂ
such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put their
own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never beÂ
based
on a blind belief where rest of reason isÂÂÂpromotedÂÂÂand the possible
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the WisdomÂÂÂTeachings operates
through groups
and organisations carrying various names and not only those who prideÂ
themselves by the use of the nameÂÂÂ"theosophical" . And we will know
them
on
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest
search
after the truth without multicultural religiously- related bigotry.Â
>>ÂÂÂ
>>M. Sufilight
>>ÂÂÂ
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From:Â AnandÂ
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.comÂ
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:21 AMÂÂÂ
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church onÂÂÂNewÂÂÂAge/Theosophy
>>
>>I got this link just now.Â
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