Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00163)

I hope there wasn't a mistranslation because of language. I didn't mean that you will find yourself in the gutter, it's meaning is that theÂhumblest has the same access to the stars as the one walking on the pavement.

Cass


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>From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@yahoo.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:48:57 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>Cass,
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>I am headed for somewhere greener than the gutter hopefully... and i hope it is not the fungi and algae greening the environment around...
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>Preethi
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>--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com> wrote:
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>From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 9:41 AM
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>Preethi, was it Oscar Wilde that said - you can still see the stars from the gutter? This maybe a blessing in disguise 
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>Cass
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>>From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>
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>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 12:51:47 PM
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>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>Dear Nigel,
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>>If you have the courage of your convictions, you get kicked out on to the road. That is where i am at the moment, for standing up and fighting against the corruption the President endorses through her relatives.
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>>Preethi
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>>--- On Thu, 9/7/09, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au> wrote:
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>>From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au>
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>>Subject: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>>Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 7:30 AM
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>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@ ...> wrote:
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>>> Did Leadbeater encourage "blind following" as
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>>> Anand phrases it?
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>>> You be the judge. Here is what Mr. Leadbeater said
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>>> about Mrs. Besant:
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>>Yes Daniel, and all
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>>And this blind following demanded from a man who lied 
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>>repeatedly, who manifestly contradicted the very masters he 
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>>claimed to represent and who admitted to serious sexual 
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>>misdemeanours with young boysâ and whose many 
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>>fantastical statements in his books have been removed by 
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>>"theosophical" publishers to avoid both extreme embarrassment
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>>and justified discredit, and to maintain the blind following 
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>>of a blatant liar.
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>>Is it any wonder that deception and deceit from whatever 
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>>quarter continues to infect some in the Adyar Theosophical 
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>>Society.
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>>It is disappointing the many honourable members in that
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>>organisation continue to permit these violations to occur.
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>>Courage of convictions it seems is in short supply. 
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>>Regards
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>>Nigel
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>>> "What can I say to you of your President [Annie
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>>> Besant] that you do not know already? Her colossal
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>>> intellect, her unfailing wisdom, her unrivalled
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>>> eloquence, her splendid forgetfulness of self,
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>>> her untiring devotion of work for others - all
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>>> these are but a small part of her greatness;
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>>> they are on the surface, they may be seen by all,
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>>> they leap to the eyes. But there are other qualities,
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>>> other powers, of which you cannot know, because they
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>>> pertain to the secrets of Initiation. She is a
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>>> pupil of our Masters; from the fount of Their
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>>> archaic wisdom she derives her own, the plans which
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>>> she is carrying out are Their plans for the welfare
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>>> of the world. THINK THEREFORE, HOW GREAT AN
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>>> HONOUR IT IS FOR YOU that you should be permitted
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>>> to work under her, for in doing so you are virtually
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>>> working under Them. THINK HOW WATCHFUL YOU SHOULD
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>>> BE TO MISS NO HINT WHICH FALLS FROM HER LIPS, to carry
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>>> out EXACTLY whatever instructions she may give to you.
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>>> Remember...there will be times when you cannot
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>>> understand her motives, for she is taking into account
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>>> many things which you cannot see and of which
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>>> she must not tell you. BUT WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND
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>>> OR NOT, YOU WILL BE WISE TO FOLLOW HER IMPLICITLY, JUST
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>>> BECAUSE SHE KNOWS.
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>>> THIS IS NOT MERE SUPPOSITION ON MY PART, NO MERE
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>>> FLIGHT OF THE IMAGINATION; I HAVE STOOD BESIDE YOUR
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>>> PRESIDENT IN THE PRESENCE OF THE SUPREME DIRECTOR
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>>> OF EVOLUTION ON THIS GLOBE, AND I KNOW WHEREOF I
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>>> SPEAK. Let the wise hear my words, and act accordingly. "
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>>> Caps added. Adyar Album, p. 45.
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>>> Daniel
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