Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00162)

Not only did Leadbeater encourage blind following he coated it in blind adoration

Cass


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>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 1:45:26 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>Agreed.
>Maybe not so much the "lying", but perhaps rather the misleading activities.
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>C. W. Ledbeater deeds were:
>a) Calling God a "He" continously and to such an extend that it was misleading. And this he in fact did very much in his books. And by this he mislead Seekers into a dualistic view upon the divine within them. And the doctrine of the Divine within each human was almost never mentioned by C. W. Leadbeater despite he claimed to be in daily contact with the same Masters as H. P. Blavatsky.
>b) Mistreatment of young boys (not girls), which might have included - touch - was admitted by Leadbeater at the meeting maj 1906 in London, were he was thrown out of the Society. (The report is here online: http://blavatskyarc hives.com/ reportmeetingcha rgesleadbeaterfu ll.pdf - 2,42 MB)
>c) Lying at court in 1912 about his sexual misconduct, (that his activities teaching young boys might have involved touch), which he admitted in the non-public meeting in maj 1906 in London. Vide b). The Judge at the trial was quoted saying that he disliked the views on sexuality expressed by Leadbeater, when he was a witness at court.
>d) Describing people living on Mars as if they were living human beings in the physical wearing shoes and clothes. Something not agreed upon by Blavatsky in her book "The Key to Theosophy", page 86 - http://www.phx- ult-lodge. org/aKEY. htm.
>e) Promoting Annie Besant as very much infallible. Something we know she were not.
>f) Promoting his young boys adoration through claiming that J. Krishnamurti was the Messiah and World Teacher, and that Morya, KH and Blavatsky were ignorant, and that the Torchbearer of truth had arrived 50 years earlier than expected, and that this Torchbearer was a Messiah. Leadbeater claimed this as late as year 1930 in the Theosophist. But this time it was stated that Krishnamurti only were a Messiah from time to time. 
>g) Leadbeater ended up promoting a malechauvanistic Liberal Catholic Church. A Church only allowing male bishops, with Mitra and all.
>h) Leadbeater promoted spiritualistic views and confused the difference between shells and real departed humans in kama-loka.
>i) Leadbeater was the one single person within the TS, who went through the fastest spiritual development seen in the TS in the period of 1884-2009. Leadbeater went from being an average priest and a non-clairvoyant to become a person who already in 1909 was given the task by his Masters to point out who the coming Messiah would be. And later he claimed he was able to confirm whether J. Krishnamurti was the Messiah or not. There is of course nothing suspicious in this all, when we consider his many faults, - or is there?
>j) Leadbeaters emphasis on the Eucharist in his Liberal Catholic Church (LCC) and his writings about the Eucharist is a mistake and a false teaching. A teaching not clairifying the difference between Jesutism within the Vatican and real honest Christian Gnosis teachings. And a teaching Jesuitically phallic in its nature.
>k) And there are more. Maybe som of the members here can fill out some of the more important blanks.
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>Despite his many wellknown faults his books are among the most read and bought of all the theosophical books, even today. And the truth is, and it aught also to be told, that if one delete the many faults in his books and deeds, there remains contents, which can be said to be useful to many beginner seekers. But his many grave errors should not be hidden away so to continue to mislead the beginner Theosophists in TS Adyar or any other theosophical group.
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>This is what I have learned. But I might be wrong.
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>M. Sufilight
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: nhcareyta 
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:00 AM
>Subject: Theos-World Re: Did Leadbeater Encourage "blind following"??
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>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@ ...> wrote:
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>> Did Leadbeater encourage "blind following" as
>> Anand phrases it?
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>> You be the judge. Here is what Mr. Leadbeater said
>> about Mrs. Besant:
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>Yes Daniel, and all
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>And this blind following demanded from a man who lied 
>repeatedly, who manifestly contradicted the very masters he 
>claimed to represent and who admitted to serious sexual 
>misdemeanours with young boys. and whose many 
>fantastical statements in his books have been removed by 
>"theosophical" publishers to avoid both extreme embarrassment
>and justified discredit, and to maintain the blind following 
>of a blatant liar.
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>Is it any wonder that deception and deceit from whatever 
>quarter continues to infect some in the Adyar Theosophical 
>Society.
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>It is disappointing the many honourable members in that
>organisation continue to permit these violations to occur.
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>Courage of convictions it seems is in short supply. 
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>Regards
>Nigel
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>> "What can I say to you of your President [Annie
>> Besant] that you do not know already? Her colossal
>> intellect, her unfailing wisdom, her unrivalled
>> eloquence, her splendid forgetfulness of self,
>> her untiring devotion of work for others - all
>> these are but a small part of her greatness;
>> they are on the surface, they may be seen by all,
>> they leap to the eyes. But there are other qualities,
>> other powers, of which you cannot know, because they
>> pertain to the secrets of Initiation. She is a
>> pupil of our Masters; from the fount of Their
>> archaic wisdom she derives her own, the plans which
>> she is carrying out are Their plans for the welfare
>> of the world. THINK THEREFORE, HOW GREAT AN
>> HONOUR IT IS FOR YOU that you should be permitted
>> to work under her, for in doing so you are virtually
>> working under Them. THINK HOW WATCHFUL YOU SHOULD
>> BE TO MISS NO HINT WHICH FALLS FROM HER LIPS, to carry
>> out EXACTLY whatever instructions she may give to you.
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>> Remember...there will be times when you cannot
>> understand her motives, for she is taking into account
>> many things which you cannot see and of which
>> she must not tell you. BUT WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND
>> OR NOT, YOU WILL BE WISE TO FOLLOW HER IMPLICITLY, JUST
>> BECAUSE SHE KNOWS.
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>> THIS IS NOT MERE SUPPOSITION ON MY PART, NO MERE
>> FLIGHT OF THE IMAGINATION; I HAVE STOOD BESIDE YOUR
>> PRESIDENT IN THE PRESENCE OF THE SUPREME DIRECTOR
>> OF EVOLUTION ON THIS GLOBE, AND I KNOW WHEREOF I
>> SPEAK. Let the wise hear my words, and act accordingly. "
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>> Caps added. Adyar Album, p. 45.
>> 
>> Daniel
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