Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00164)

it came out of the bag - about the same time HPB was checking in to devachan

Cass


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>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 12:27:33 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
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>It never was in the bag to begin with.
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>Chuck the heretic
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>In a message dated 7/9/2009 12:11:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
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>Yep, that is what I wrote a couple of weeks ago. The cat was let out of 
>the bag 50 years ago.
>
>Cass
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>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:35:59 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
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>>Really, none of this stuff is a great secret. All the techniques have 
>>been published long ago.
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>>Chuck the Heretic
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>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 9:04:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
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>>When Anand talks about a democracy what he is really wanting is a benign 
>>dictator (and preferably one who has his ear) If the net goes down we 
>would 
>>either revert back to weekly meetings, walk-ins off the street or for us 
>>oldies, study autonomously and communicate via snail mail or fax.
>>
>>There is no theosophical reason why the Masters and their disciples could 
>>not work through the astral. I read that way back in 1888, KH mentioned 
>in 
>>one of his letters that he had far more important work to do regarding 
>>China than spending wasted hours trying to convince Hume of one thing or 
>>another.
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>>Cass
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>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_ 
>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:38:46 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
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>>>Now, if the central Server starts to blush too much because it gets 
>>infected with a non-theosophical worm with a red hat, I think we will 
>have to 
>>modify the situation or at least clean some of the mirrors so to avoid 
>the 
>>"flu" from sprading so to speak. :-)
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:19 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
>>>
>>>I'm blushing.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>monad_monad_ monad@yahoo. com writes:
>>>
>>>This description of the magic mirrors may sound a little far out to some 
>
>>>but it describes in a somewhat cryptic and simplified way how the 
>>advanced 
>>>members of a spiritual group telepathically work on the inner planes 
>>>amongst themselves. In this way they bypass all this personality 
>>crap-o-la. 
>>>Highly developed minds that may have left there bodies and are no longer 
>>>hindered by time and space as we understand it. 
>>>In fact the net and the modern information highway may be a stepped down 
>>>version of that work that will require many cycles to develop and 
>>perfect. 
>>>Then theosophy will not be here or there but EVERYWHERE. Chuck who's 
>>heresy 
>>>is more in the nature of a series of zen parables is right on in so much 
>>of 
>>>what he posts.
>>>No one with any real background in Theosophical studies can take what is 
>>>often posted on a number of these different Theosophical websites 
>>seriously.
>>>If I get the drift of Chucks many humorous and satirical post there is 
>>>a lot of wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this 
>>nonsense 
>>>that tries to pass for serious Theosophy. In fact this description of 
>>>Chucks outline of a Master computer and all the connecting mirrors may 
>>>parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work with there 
>>advanced 
>>>students or disciples in the ether's.
>>>Keep up the good work Chuck your heresy keeps the world alive and its 
>>many 
>>>children from following asleep and going completely comatose.
>>>Blessings Duane.
>>>
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>>>From: "_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- From: 
>"_Augoeides- 
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>>><_Augoeides- 222@Augoeides- 2_ (mailto:Augoeides- _Augoeides- 22>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy
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>>>MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALLLLL WHO IS THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF 
>>>ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ??????????? 
>>>
>>>(Large cracking sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass hitting 
>>>the floor!!!! Lol!) 
>>>
>>>John 
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy 
>>>
>>>Ok, this is going to get a bit off the wall sounding but it has been 
>done 
>>>in occult history. Let us take the scenario that the internet goes down 
>>>and stays down, as unlikely as it seems. We have a method of 
>>communication 
>>>that is virtually unstoppable- -the old, reliable magic mirror. 
>>>
>>>Using the net as a good analogy to how it would work, you have a storage 
>>>field, a big thoughtform if you will, that acts as the central server. 
>>The 
>>>mirrors are all linked to the server by the will of their operators. So, 
>>>whenever anyone wants to get a message out to one's fellow Theosophists, 
>>>one 
>>>need only meditate on the message and put it into his mirror. It then 
>>goes 
>>>automatically to the server and out to everyone else through their 
>>>mirrors. 
>>>
>>>Sounds weird? Read the description of the Shrine Room HPB had built in 
>>>the London Lodge. They were working with some interesting stuff back 
>>then. 
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic 
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>robert.b.macdonal robert.b. macdonal< WBR< WBR
>>>
>>>A few more thoughts . . . 
>>>
>>>This discussion seems to be getting hung up on the theory that a truly 
>>>democratic Society would solve our problems, or it is argued on the 
>other 
>>>hand 
>>>that we do not even need a Society, theosophy has been disseminated in 
>>the 
>>>West, and we need only study what we all have access to. It is argued 
>>that 
>>>the internet can be the tie that binds us all. 
>>>
>>>Theosophy does not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world 
>>>around us and we again are reflected into that world. Chuck pointed out 
>>>one of 
>>>the deeper truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the ether 
>>and 
>>>then over time is reflected back into us, informing us all. I have often 
>>>thought, that if the TS could discover a new way to govern itself, then 
>>>perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge of doing the 
>>>same. 
>>>Theosophy was introduced to the West in order to lead thought in new 
>>>directions 
>>>and have that thought evolve our institutions. In order to do that we 
>>>don't have to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is right, as soon as we 
>>>change 
>>>that will seed the crystal, if you like, of change all around us. 
>>>
>>>Cass has brought up the whole issue of autonomy. Right now, if you are 
>>not 
>>>surrounded by a like minded group of theosophists who are going to allow 
>>>you to develop along lines you feel are right, the best thing to do is 
>>>study 
>>>alone, and perhaps interact with others half-way around the globe on the 
>>>internet and do the best you can in these spiritually dark times. Who 
>can 
>>>argue with that? We are talking about change here and it certainly does 
>>>not 
>>>seem like people, theosophists included, are open to real change. 
>>>
>>>On the other hand Anand is suggesting that a true democracy will solve 
>>all 
>>>of our problems. Democracy is the silver bullet that will slay the beast 
>>>of totalitarianism. But what is it and how is it going to work? Some say 
>>>that the TS began as the most democratic of institutions but look at it 
>>>now. 
>>>If India, Pakistan, and other developing Nations are allowed to achieve 
>>>economic power, then they will learn that democracy is no protection. 
>Ask 
>>>any 
>>>educated individual from the West about democracy, and if they think 
>>about 
>>>it for even a few moments, they will have to admit that in any election 
>>>they 
>>>have ever voted in, they invariably have voted for the individual that 
>>>they have disliked the least. Populist leaders like Obama are rare, and 
>>>when 
>>>they do achieve power their voting records are no less corrupt than all 
>>>the 
>>>rest. It is not enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need 
>to 
>>>know the details. 
>>>
>>>How can a Society remain democratic when it invariably has to struggle 
>>>with an uneducated and apathetic electorate. Who in this group knew 
>>>anything 
>>>about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong before this last 
>>>election? Those who do not belong to the Adyar Society, who among you 
>>know 
>>>anything about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is nothing without 
>>an 
>>>informed and engaged electorate. The problem is not about re-instituting 
>>>democracy, it is about re-inventing the electorate, how do you do that? 
>>>Again, the 
>>>answer Cass gives seems to be ringing loud now, you wait until they are 
>>>born. But what if they are out there now, waiting for a form of 
>>government 
>>>that will inform them and engage them. What would the nature of that 
>>>government be? Change has never come before the idea, how could it? 
>>>
>>>What happens if governments take the internet away tomorrow, or limit it 
>>>in such ways that you dare not speak your mind or relate to others of 
>>>similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be stuck with a TS 
>>>leadership 
>>>that is probably a reflection of the government leaders that took away 
>>the 
>>>internet or we will be totally autonomous reading and studying theosophy 
>>>under 
>>>a dim lamp in a dark basement. The governments will still be democratic, 
>>>you can either vote for this tool of the unseen power or that tool of 
>the 
>>>unseen power. 
>>>
>>>I suspect it is important that theosophists think about these questions, 
>
>>>because if we can figure them out, perhaps humanity would be ready to 
>>>follow. 
>>>
>>>Robert Bruce 
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