Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
Jul 08, 2009 09:38 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
Now, if the central Server starts to blush too much because it gets infected with a non-theosophical worm with a red hat, I think we will have to modify the situation or at least clean some of the mirrors so to avoid the "flu" from sprading so to speak. :-)
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From: Drpsionic@aol.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Chucks magic mirrors!!!
I'm blushing.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
monad_monad_monad@yahoo.com writes:
This description of the magic mirrors may sound a little far out to some
but it describes in a somewhat cryptic and simplified way how the advanced
members of a spiritual group telepathically work on the inner planes
amongst themselves. In this way they bypass all this personality crap-o-la.
Highly developed minds that may have left there bodies and are no longer
hindered by time and space as we understand it.
In fact the net and the modern information highway may be a stepped down
version of that work that will require many cycles to develop and perfect.
Then theosophy will not be here or there but EVERYWHERE. Chuck who's heresy
is more in the nature of a series of zen parables is right on in so much of
what he posts.
No one with any real background in Theosophical studies can take what is
often posted on a number of these different Theosophical websites seriously.
If I get the drift of Chucks many humorous and satirical post there is
a lot of wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this nonsense
that tries to pass for serious Theosophy. In fact this description of
Chucks outline of a Master computer and all the connecting mirrors may
parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work with there advanced
students or disciples in the ether's.
Keep up the good work Chuck your heresy keeps the world alive and its many
children from following asleep and going completely comatose.
Blessings Duane.
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To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy
MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALLLLL WHO IS THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ???????????
(Large cracking sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass hitting
the floor!!!! Lol!)
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Drpsionic@aol. com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy
Ok, this is going to get a bit off the wall sounding but it has been done
in occult history. Let us take the scenario that the internet goes down
and stays down, as unlikely as it seems. We have a method of communication
that is virtually unstoppable- -the old, reliable magic mirror.
Using the net as a good analogy to how it would work, you have a storage
field, a big thoughtform if you will, that acts as the central server. The
mirrors are all linked to the server by the will of their operators. So,
whenever anyone wants to get a message out to one's fellow Theosophists,
one
need only meditate on the message and put it into his mirror. It then goes
automatically to the server and out to everyone else through their
mirrors.
Sounds weird? Read the description of the Shrine Room HPB had built in
the London Lodge. They were working with some interesting stuff back then.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
robert.b.macdonald@ hotmail.com writes:
A few more thoughts . . .
This discussion seems to be getting hung up on the theory that a truly
democratic Society would solve our problems, or it is argued on the other
hand
that we do not even need a Society, theosophy has been disseminated in the
West, and we need only study what we all have access to. It is argued that
the internet can be the tie that binds us all.
Theosophy does not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world
around us and we again are reflected into that world. Chuck pointed out
one of
the deeper truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the ether and
then over time is reflected back into us, informing us all. I have often
thought, that if the TS could discover a new way to govern itself, then
perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge of doing the
same.
Theosophy was introduced to the West in order to lead thought in new
directions
and have that thought evolve our institutions. In order to do that we
don't have to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is right, as soon as we
change
that will seed the crystal, if you like, of change all around us.
Cass has brought up the whole issue of autonomy. Right now, if you are not
surrounded by a like minded group of theosophists who are going to allow
you to develop along lines you feel are right, the best thing to do is
study
alone, and perhaps interact with others half-way around the globe on the
internet and do the best you can in these spiritually dark times. Who can
argue with that? We are talking about change here and it certainly does
not
seem like people, theosophists included, are open to real change.
On the other hand Anand is suggesting that a true democracy will solve all
of our problems. Democracy is the silver bullet that will slay the beast
of totalitarianism. But what is it and how is it going to work? Some say
that the TS began as the most democratic of institutions but look at it
now.
If India, Pakistan, and other developing Nations are allowed to achieve
economic power, then they will learn that democracy is no protection. Ask
any
educated individual from the West about democracy, and if they think about
it for even a few moments, they will have to admit that in any election
they
have ever voted in, they invariably have voted for the individual that
they have disliked the least. Populist leaders like Obama are rare, and
when
they do achieve power their voting records are no less corrupt than all
the
rest. It is not enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need to
know the details.
How can a Society remain democratic when it invariably has to struggle
with an uneducated and apathetic electorate. Who in this group knew
anything
about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong before this last
election? Those who do not belong to the Adyar Society, who among you know
anything about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is nothing without an
informed and engaged electorate. The problem is not about re-instituting
democracy, it is about re-inventing the electorate, how do you do that?
Again, the
answer Cass gives seems to be ringing loud now, you wait until they are
born. But what if they are out there now, waiting for a form of government
that will inform them and engage them. What would the nature of that
government be? Change has never come before the idea, how could it?
What happens if governments take the internet away tomorrow, or limit it
in such ways that you dare not speak your mind or relate to others of
similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be stuck with a TS
leadership
that is probably a reflection of the government leaders that took away the
internet or we will be totally autonomous reading and studying theosophy
under
a dim lamp in a dark basement. The governments will still be democratic,
you can either vote for this tool of the unseen power or that tool of the
unseen power.
I suspect it is important that theosophists think about these questions,
because if we can figure them out, perhaps humanity would be ready to
follow.
Robert Bruce
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