Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00091)

I'm blushing.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2009 10:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
monad_monad_monad@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


This description of the magic mirrors may sound a  little  far out to some 
but it describes in a somewhat cryptic   and simplified way how the advanced 
members of a spiritual group  telepathically work on the inner planes 
amongst themselves. In this way they  bypass all this personality crap-o-la. 
Highly developed minds that may  have left there bodies  and are no longer 
hindered by time and space  as we understand it. 
In fact the net and the modern information highway  may be a stepped down 
version of that work that will require many cycles to  develop and perfect. 
Then theosophy will not be here or there but  EVERYWHERE. Chuck who's heresy 
is more in the nature of a series of zen  parables is right on in so much of 
what he posts.
No one with any real  background in Theosophical studies can take what is 
often posted on  a number of these different Theosophical websites  seriously.
If  I  get the drift of Chucks many humorous and satirical  post there  is 
a lot of wisdom in just going to the source and bypassing all this nonsense  
that tries to pass for serious Theosophy. In fact this description of 
Chucks  outline of a Master computer  and all the connecting mirrors  may 
parallel and be a good description of how the Masters work with there  advanced 
students or disciples in the ether's.
Keep up the good work Chuck  your heresy keeps the world alive and its many 
children from following asleep  and going completely comatose.
Blessings  Duane.

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From: "_Augoeides-222@Augoeides-2_ (mailto:Augoeides-222@comcast.net) "  
<_Augoeides-222@Augoeides-2_ (mailto:Augoeides-222@comcast.net) >
To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:16:01 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical  Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy

MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALLLLL WHO IS  THE THEOSOPHIST BEST OF 
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ??????????? 

(Large cracking  sound---followed by the sound of tinkling glass hitting 
the floor!!!! Lol!)  

John 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Drpsionic@aol. com  
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:39:37 PM  GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical  Democracy vs Theosophical Autonomy 

Ok, this is going to get a bit off  the wall sounding but it has been done 
in occult history. Let us take the  scenario that the internet goes down 
and stays down, as unlikely as it  seems. We have a method of communication 
that is virtually unstoppable-  -the old, reliable magic mirror. 

Using the net as a good analogy to  how it would work, you have a storage 
field, a big thoughtform if you  will, that acts as the central server. The 
mirrors are all linked to the  server by the will of their operators. So, 
whenever anyone wants to get a  message out to one's fellow Theosophists, 
one 
need only meditate on the  message and put it into his mirror. It then goes 
automatically to the  server and out to everyone else through their 
mirrors. 

Sounds  weird? Read the description of the Shrine Room HPB had built in 
the London  Lodge. They were working with some interesting stuff back then. 

Chuck  the Heretic 

In a message dated 7/7/2009 8:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
robert.b.macdonald@ hotmail.com writes: 

A few more thoughts  . . . 

This discussion seems to be getting hung up on the theory that a  truly 
democratic Society would solve our problems, or it is argued on the  other 
hand 
that we do not even need a Society, theosophy has been  disseminated in the 
West, and we need only study what we all have access  to. It is argued that 
the internet can be the tie that binds us all.  

Theosophy does not exist in a vacuum, it is a reflection of the world  
around us and we again are reflected into that world. Chuck pointed out  
one of 
the deeper truths, that being, knowledge gets reflected into the  ether and 
then over time is reflected back into us, informing us all. I  have often 
thought, that if the TS could discover a new way to govern  itself, then 
perhaps this would signal that the world is on the verge of  doing the 
same. 
Theosophy was introduced to the West in order to lead  thought in new 
directions 
and have that thought evolve our institutions.  In order to do that we 
don't have to be noticed by everyone, if Chuck is  right, as soon as we 
change 
that will seed the crystal, if you like, of  change all around us. 

Cass has brought up the whole issue of autonomy.  Right now, if you are not 
surrounded by a like minded group of  theosophists who are going to allow 
you to develop along lines you feel  are right, the best thing to do is 
study 
alone, and perhaps interact with  others half-way around the globe on the 
internet and do the best you can  in these spiritually dark times. Who can 
argue with that? We are talking  about change here and it certainly does 
not 
seem like people, theosophists  included, are open to real change. 

On the other hand Anand is  suggesting that a true democracy will solve all 
of our problems. Democracy  is the silver bullet that will slay the beast 
of totalitarianism. But what  is it and how is it going to work? Some say 
that the TS began as the most  democratic of institutions but look at it 
now. 
If India, Pakistan, and  other developing Nations are allowed to achieve 
economic power, then they  will learn that democracy is no protection. Ask 
any 
educated individual  from the West about democracy, and if they think about 
it for even a few  moments, they will have to admit that in any election 
they 
have ever voted  in, they invariably have voted for the individual that 
they have disliked  the least. Populist leaders like Obama are rare, and 
when 
they do achieve  power their voting records are no less corrupt than all 
the 
rest. It is  not enough to claim that democracy is the panacea, we need to 
know the  details. 

How can a Society remain democratic when it invariably has to  struggle 
with an uneducated and apathetic electorate. Who in this group  knew 
anything 
about the by-laws of the Society to which they belong before  this last 
election? Those who do not belong to the Adyar Society, who  among you know 
anything about your Societies' bylaws now? Democracy is  nothing without an 
informed and engaged electorate. The problem is not  about re-instituting 
democracy, it is about re-inventing the electorate,  how do you do that? 
Again, the 
answer Cass gives seems to be ringing loud  now, you wait until they are 
born. But what if they are out there now,  waiting for a form of government 
that will inform them and engage them.  What would the nature of that 
government be? Change has never come before  the idea, how could it? 

What happens if governments take the internet  away tomorrow, or limit it 
in such ways that you dare not speak your mind  or relate to others of 
similar mind? Then where will the TS be? We will be  stuck with a TS 
leadership 
that is probably a reflection of the government  leaders that took away the 
internet or we will be totally autonomous  reading and studying theosophy 
under 
a dim lamp in a dark basement. The  governments will still be democratic, 
you can either vote for this tool of  the unseen power or that tool of the 
unseen power. 

I suspect it is  important that theosophists think about these questions, 
because if we can  figure them out, perhaps humanity would be ready to 
follow. 

Robert  Bruce 

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