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Theos-World Re: The Esoteric School Lobby

Jun 25, 2009 07:13 AM
by Anand


Dear MKR,
How could John Algeo and company change situation in TS, when constitution of TS and ES give full control to ES hierarchy and it's head ?
Naturally they had to invent new ways, one innovative idea was disenfranchisement of members.

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> I need to elaborate my comments about no one from Krotona having spoken
> about the developments since the start of the nomination process and
> developments subsequent to the election.
> -
> There are two key events that I feel members, especially long-time ones,
> everywhere should have commented on.
> -
> First is the lay men's and women's claim that Radha Burnier is sick both
> physically and mentally, which was shot down by professional opinions of
> three independent physicians, one a highly regarded long-time member of TS
> and Secretary of a Section. The second one and a serious critical one, is
> the ultra secret attempt to quickly disenfranchise members world-wide and GC
> members seizing the power to appoint the president, in spite of they already
> having the monopoly of nominating the candidates. The latter one would have
> been a fait accompli but for the good luck of TS and its members and help
> from theos-talk in making members learn about the secret move. (Mind you,
> even long term members and volunteers at Adyar and other national centers
> did not know about it and found out from theos-talk.) In such situations,
> normally a quick apology would be forth coming and I have not seen any
> todate. If this had happened in Japan, the proponents would have left for
> the astral world.
> -
> Members in Krotona could have spoken on the above events in support of Radha
> Burnier and TS. But no one did. We know for sure, many residents at Krotona
> use internet and could have posted messages here for free. What were they
> afraid of? It does not make logical sense to ordinary members like me. May
> be someone who has knowledge about the inner workings of TS can enlighten
> all of us.
> -
> MKR
> -
> Visit www.theosophy.net and enjoy the activities
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:55 AM, robertapimenta26 <
> robertapimenta26@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Anand,
> >
> > The power of the Outer Head in the ES is absolute. This body is not
> > democratic or transparent. The Outer Head can expel anyone from the ES at
> > any moment in time, without any explanation given. Be aware that this is not
> > a secret, there is sufficient literature available about this subject.
> >
> > In a presidential election process, as took place last year in the Adyar
> > group, I believe that 'officially' ES members were free to choose their
> > candidate, but that in practice many ES members felt, or were told by their
> > warden that voting for Mr. John Algeo would show disloyalty and disrespect
> > to the Outer Head of the ES, Mrs. Radha Burnier. This means that the Outer
> > Head of the ES, is able to have a great, or a decisive influence, on the
> > outcome of a presidential election in the TS. I mentioned this last week as
> > well: there is evidence available that ES members, who were in doubt about
> > the physical or mental condition of the International President, were told,
> > that if they had such doubts, they should step out of the ES.
> >
> > One other thing came to my mind when I read again Mr. Ramadoss' repeated
> > remarks about the silence from those respected theosophists at a center like
> > Krotona in the USA. The Outer Head of the ES is also the head of that
> > center, and all those who live there, all ES members, do so by the grace of
> > Mrs. Radha Burnier. Taking the above in consideration, it is not so
> > difficult to imagine why they're not making any comments, yes? They take the
> > risk of being expelled from the center if they'd do anything which is not in
> > accordance with the wishes and policies of Mrs. Radha Burnier, yes?
> >
> > Think about this!
> >
> > Later on today, I will set out for a long trip, so I won't be able to
> > contribute much in the next weeks, but as football trainers tell their
> > players, I say to you all: Keep pour eyes on the ball!!!
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Anand"
> > <AnandGholap@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The presidential elections in Theosophical Society are conducted through
> > secrete ballot. So others may not know for which presidential candidate a
> > person votes. But in many Theosophical lodges elections don't happen through
> > secrete ballot. So everyone knows for whom a member votes.
> > > If an ES warden is running for the office, which they generally do, then
> > how can an ES member under him vote against the ES warden, when he knows
> > that this warden can expel that member from ES?
> > > Not only that, how can a member of the lodge or a managing committee of
> > the lodge challenge any proposal supported by an ES warden, when he knows
> > that this warden can expel him from the ES?
> > > Similarly, how can anybody in the General Council challenge any proposal
> > supported by the Outer Head of ES, when he knows he can be expelled by this
> > Outer Head of ES?
> > > Anand Gholap
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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>





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