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Re: Strange pattern of secrecy/non transparency

Jun 18, 2009 03:05 PM
by robertapimenta26


Mr. Ramadoss,

The secrecy,  and the strange,  darkish political games being played behind closed doors,  is so bad for the TS Adyar. The ES is not transparent that is a fact, but is should be above all politics. All can read this in TS literature. Olcott at first was opposed to the ES, afraid for a state in the state. Perhaps he was right after all!!  The Pasadena group was wise to dissolve the ES.

Roberta

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Strange pattern of secrecy/non transparency
> 
> It looks like, in the leadership around the world and the underlings who,
> for all practical purposes, seem to be under the thumb of the leaders, there
> is a pattern of secrecy/non transparency and silence.
> 
> .
> 
> Many long time members of this and other theosophical maillists know
> that you rarely see any of the leaders world-wide or anyone who has anything
> to do with the administration participate or comment on anything good or bad
> or indifferent happening to TS. During the last almost 15 years, only two
> General Secretaries have participated on this maillist. They are, the late
> Einar from Iceland and Warwick from NZ. Has anyone come up with a reason
> why?
> 
> .
> 
> Also even in the USA, we have not seen any of those who are or were in the
> administration participate in any of the maillists and I do not think that
> this is accidental. We all know that this list is being monitored by the
> leaders and long-time members. From time to time, it is highly suspected
> that some participants may have been and being used as a conduit in the
> discussions by leaders so that they can keep their hands clean. Some readers
> are fully aware of this.
> 
> .
> 
> The non participation is not due to lack of computer access or skills,
> because email is used by everyone everyday for communication much like the
> telephone. I suspect that it is just another secrecy and control
> manifestation that may be flowing from long term association with secret
> organizations.
> 
> .
> This widespread mentality of secrecy makes it difficult for anyone think of
> transparency and also the lack of transparency makes it easy to carryout
> plans which may be detrimental to TS and its members without any ordinary
> member raising questions.
> .
> We saw a classic display of this in the last yearâ??s super secret attempt to
> disenfranchise all the members and even when it was discovered and there was
> shock and unbelief from members, no apology was forthcoming from the
> proponents.
> 
> .
> 
> Unless the leaders wake up and start working for transparency, there is
> going to be other coups in future hurting TS and theosophy. Implementing
> transparency is easy. Each Section is fully autonomous and there is widest
> latitude to implement transparency measure immediately. But, for those who
> grew up in a opaque environment, it is very difficult to see the advantages
> of transparency. Instead of harping on International problems, whether real
> or imagined, now is the time to take steps to open up the sectionâ??s
> activities and demonstrate to other sections how transparency can be
> implemented now and how it safeguards the interests of TS.
> 
> Let us not forget the 1900 Letter (warning) from Master KH:
> 
> +++Misleading secrecy has given the death blow to numerous organizations.+++
> 
> 
> 
> MKR
> 
> Visit www.theosophy.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/18/09, robertapimenta26 <robertapimenta26@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Anand,
> >
> > The ES of the Adyar group is not an open body as you know, so members are
> > reluctant to come out into the open. But I guess that in particular among
> > certain ES members, and their local leaders, a lobby was formed to secure
> > the re-election of Radha Burnier, no matter what.
> >
> > Why they did this? One can only guess!
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Anand"
> > <AnandGholap@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "robertapimenta26" <robertapimenta26@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Last year, in Brazil, some ES members who showed their deep concern and
> > openly shared their doubts, were told by their local leader, that IF they
> > were not certain of Radha Burnier's health, or her capacities to lead the
> > TS, they should leave the ES.
> > > >
> > > > Similar things happened in other Latin American countries.
> > > >
> > > > Roberta
> > > >
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > Dear Roberta,
> > > If these things are interpreted correctly, it would mean that message
> > given by local leaders to ES members was "accept Radha Burnier as leader of
> > TS or leave the ES"
> > > Who do you think was behind giving such message to ES members in
> > different countries?
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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