Re: Theos-World Re: Allegations about election procedure in Indian Section
Jun 12, 2009 09:32 AM
I am talking about election in the foreseeable future.
There have been some comments from several well known theosophists on this
issue at *theosophy.net.* <http://theosophy.net/>
Let us look at the facts. Indian Section has the largest membership and is
growing. On the other hand, in countries outside India, the membership is
either stagnant or going down. None of the GC members concerned want to talk
about this hot potato issue.
Currently, members world-wide vote to elect the president. Hence without the
support of Indian membership, it is almost impossible for any candidate to
get elected. So anyone who wants to get elected has to visit Indian lodges
so that membership gets to know the candidate. That was how John Coats got
Indian votes in spite of competition.
The scenario that can change the picture is if the GC changes the rules and
disenfranchises the membership and seizes the control of appointing the
president. Since already one ultra secret attempt was made last year, which
failed because of early discovery and this maillist, the group behind the
attempt may just be lurking for a future opportunity. Unless membership
world-wide quickly take some strong steps to prevent such secret change, we
are at risk of losing our rights for ever and that would end TS as we know
More discussions at *theosophy.net* <http://theosophy.net/>
On 6/10/09, seeker_preethi <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi MKR,
> "The Indian Section challenged the allegations. These allegations made the
> membership in the Indian Section both sad and felt deeply hurt. This, will
> make it difficult for a long time for anyone from the West to be elected as
> the president, because of the overwhelming number of members in the Indian
> Section." -- your quote below.
> Are you predicting the results of the next election? We are talking about
> the next one in seven years, aren't we? Seven years is a long time to forget
> and forgive grouses, don't you think?
> --- In email@example.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > Allegations about election procedure in Indian Section
> > .
> > Soon after the election result was announced declaring the election of
> > Burnier, when everyone expected that now that the election is over and
> > would be unity within the leadership around the world so that TS can get
> > with its mission, everyone was in for a surprise. Some well known leaders
> > the losing camp, alleged that there were procedural problems in the
> > and reporting in the Indian Section. These allegations were not
> > substantiated and were untrue as later disclosures showed.
> > .
> > The Indian Section challenged the allegations. These allegations made the
> > membership in the Indian Section both sad and felt deeply hurt. This,
> > make it difficult for a long time for anyone from the West to be elected
> > the president, because of the overwhelming number of members in the
> > Section.
> > .
> > Indian Section has the largest membership and is growing while the
> > membership outside India is either stagnant or going down. All past
> > presidents were fully aware of the need for full support from the hearts
> > the membership in India for anyone who wants to lead. TS is a fully
> > autonomous organization and hence leaders cannot act like the leaders in
> > commercial organizations. They need support from the hearts of members.
> > .
> > The only retraction of the allegation I have seen so far is a statement
> > Betty Bland on a little known Internet website. She stated:
> > .
> > '' .. I unknowingly misstated some dates in my most recent report about
> > 2008 Adyar Convention (ÃâÅReport from Adyar,Ãâ Quest, spring 2009). There
> > two deadlines for the 2008 election results to be turned in to the
> > International Secretary. The first date, June 6, was the time by which
> > sections should have their votes in or they would be further solicited;
> > second date was the absolute deadline of June 28. A two-week extension,
> > July 12, was granted to the Indian Section, but they did not use it.''
> > .
> > The above raises some points. On matters of details, every reporter knows
> > that they verify them from two independent sources. Then, before
> > them, they contact the target and ask for their comments. These are done
> > make sure the facts are accurate, because the credibility of the reporter
> > involved. These days, it is very easy and cheap to pick up a phone and
> > an international call. On important matters, every businessman/woman
> > telephone works best. In addition, while Betty was in Adyar for the
> > convention and GC meeting, she could have personally asked the head of
> > Indian Section and the International Secretary about the allegation. If
> > these had been done, the matter could have been put at rest months ago.
> > .
> > Also on a serious allegation such as the above, when entire membership is
> > affected, quick clear cut public apology is what is expected and works.
> > Publishing a statement quoted above in a little known website does not
> > IMHO.
> > .
> > Now it is upto each member to make a call.
> > .
> > MKR
> > .
> > For more on theosophy go to: theosophy.net
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