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Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?

Jun 02, 2009 12:59 PM
by Leon Maurer

Thanks, Martin, for doing it first and then asking for my permission.

If I wasn't on the CIA hit list before, I could very well be on it now.;-)

But what the hell, I'm old enough to not give a damn -- especially if it comes clean and fast... (And they are pretty good at it -- except maybe, when they use food poisoning.):(

But then, since I have no documentary proof of my allegations -- why would they give a damn? ;-)

So, leave it there!


On Jun 2, 2009, at 6/2/094:13 AM, Martin wrote:

Leon, I have copied your comments in this thread:

I hope you are ok with that, else I will delete them...and write it in my own words...I do give you credits though:)

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Leon Maurer <> wrote:

From: Leon Maurer <>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:21 AM

But, the "dark forces" are the ones who direct these groups behind

the scenes, who promote the idea that greed is good... And, that the

welfare of the world depends solely on the trickle down charity of

the wealthy industrialists who pay the wages and fund all the

nonprofit organized charities and churches that take care of the

people in need ... With the bulk of the wealthy dupes of these Dugpas

(usually their children) not realizing that their greed spills over

into all those who handle their money, and take their cuts off the top.

So, there isn't some elementals whispering into the ears of the power

brokers -- who are themselves the Dugpas...  As anyone becomes when

they selfishly accept the religion of greed for power and money, and

start "talking with a forked tongue" (as the Native Americans say)

about how religious and charitable they are, and how much they have

Christ in their hearts and listen to God.

Vide the family history of the last Prez of the US -- whose

grandfather financed Adolph Hitler's Nazi regime and whose father,

after WW2 set up the CIA "black ops" assassins as tools of the

wealthy military industrialists -- to protect their foreign interests

against communist nationalization, and to keep their weapons supplies

moving -- financed surreptitiously by CIA controlled international

drug smuggling and marketing.

Some of us know what came onto the US in Vietnam body bags, and what

flew back from Panama after delivering weapons to the Sandinistas, or

to Al Queda in Afghanastan, or any other rebel group fighting against

communists, or any dictator who controlled any country's economics

that were not in favor of the worldwide money-power- elite cabal...

All managed by the CIO and their Military Industrial congressional

complex handlers -- all the way up to the White House.  We also know

who financed the campaigns of most Presidents (and many Governors as

well) since WW2, and continues to controls their appointees in

Government Bureaus and departments, as well as congressional votes in

favor of monetary interests.

So, its the "dark forces" (who are the "Dugpas" that sit in the

secret rooms and make all the plans, as leaders of the power elite)

-- who do get to spend the money, and get all the kudos in their
favor.  Unfortunately, it's the people who are the puppets... And its

the power elite Dugpas, and their worldwide cabal of compliant

military industrialists. property and resource owners -- that are the


That's the sorry state of the world as I see it... After watching it

(and overhearing) it grow ever since I was a young soldier in WW2 and

privy to the plans for the occupation and reconstruction of Germany

-- while the US armies were preparing to cross the Rhine. It was no
Secret to the Generals -- One of whom later became a President, while

others sat on the Board of Directors of many of the largest

international corporations, long after the war...  Not to mention the

German Born, American trained economist who, after joining the army

to obtain his citizenship, was assigned as a military governor in

Germany, and later, after helping organize project Paper Clip

maserminding US economic detente with China, and being appointed

Secretary of State, continued as advisor to American Presidents who

were notorious fascist oriented anti communists.. . All stooges of the

Dugpa controlled international banking power-elite and/or puppet

masters of the world's wage slaves.

Who do you think controls the money made from the CIA fathered

international drug trade, the gains of international mafia gangsters

and racketeers, or the profits from military weapon's and post war

reconstruction?  Remember, it's those who hold and lend other peoples

money -- and do nothing with its profits to prevent the destruction

of the biosphere they cause, the diseases they palliate but won't

cure, or the damages from the wars they foment -- who really wield

the power of life and death in this modern world.

Whether they admit it or not -- they are, ALL, the Dugpas minions.


On Jun 1, 2009, at 6/1/0910:23 PM, Cass Silva wrote:

But the dark forces behind these governments don't get to spend the

money or receive any qudos for their part.  Does it simply come

down to enjoyment from puppeteering?  There has to be a bigger

design that this as this shows them up as simply being supersized

elementals doing what they do best.  One thing for sure is that the

dugpas must promise a long life as all of these bastards seem to

live into their eighties.

Yes, I agree that it is just a small cartel of individuals that are

ruling the world through their economic control of it.

Perhaps you are right in that the motive is to cause instability

leading to a halting of the divine plan for evolution and our part

in it, but as every Manvantara has a starting and finishing point

they can never achieve their goal.  As they supposedly can reach

christ consciousness in their own scheme, they should know that

they are ultimately fighting a losing battle.

Far as I can tell they have very little use for using Judaism when

they have Christians who have been dumbed down by christianity for

centuries - Judaism on the other hand is not so easy to infiltrate

as Jews themselves can question their creed and is an integral part

of the jewish religion - at least -as far as I know.  Christians on

the other hand would be easy picking as no doubt the roman church

and the dugpas know rely continue to wait for an event that will

not occur -a messianic saviour to save them - even if Jesus did

exist - did he save anyone?  I will be facitious and say, how many

saviors does it take?

Even if there are catclysmic events - brought on by the gargantuan

thought form produced by humanity - not all will be lost and I

guess the 64,000 dollar question is 'is earth to be saved for the

more or less evolved souls'?  Seems to me that historically when

there have been deluges etc it was saved for the less evolved with

a few minor scatterings of the more evolved.

Anyway at my age its not an issue



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From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol. com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Sent: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009 6:32:50 AM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of



I presume you are talking about the "dark forces" that are behind the

US and Israeli shadow governments -- with the motive being greed for

money and power -- which they maintain simply by controlling the

global economy, one way or another.

Now they have such power, through the World Banking system --

controlled almost entirely by a cabal of US, Israeli, British,

German , French, Arabian, and Vatican banker/financiers, including a

number of loosely interwoven family groups -- of which the

Rothchild's, Rockefellers, Windsors, Thyssens, Harrimans, Schiffs,

Mellons, etc,, are among the European and American leaders -- with

their tentacles spread through most Industrialized or commodity rich

countries and their satellites around the world -- who finance the

weapons makers and war profiteers on a global scale... And use their

financial powers to intimidate governments. As long as they continue

to finance political campaigns and bribe government legislators and

bureaucrats, they can maintain this power.

Their hope however is to gain control of all the world's governments,

by consolidating them into a single "New World Order" or global

government -- which they can entirely control. (BTW, this

internationally consolidated NWO should not be confused with the the

"New Order of the Ages" introduced in 1776 by the "Founding Fathers"

or agents of the Theosophical Movement, in the form of what was

intended, in the beginning, to be a pure democratic government in

America.) This current idea of a single global government desired by

these bankers, however, could only work for them -- considering the

diversity of cultures of different nationalities and ethic groups --

as a force backed theocratic dictatorship.

In theosophical terms, it means that such nefarious, potential

governmental control activities, are currently carried out by knowing

and unknowing agents of the "Dugpas' or "dark side" -- who,

ostensibly (whether sincerely or otherwise) -- can be members of ANY

religious and/or political organization, secret society or

association (including the TS). Therefore, such people can carry out

their common aims, cooperatively, across all social, political,

religious and ethnic boundaries.. . With their only conflict being

over the control of territorial or competitive economic boundaries --

which can be resolved by cartel agreements between competing

corporation -- which act as codependent states in a vast federalized

global dictatorship.

Naturally, any false prophet or "messiah" who can front for these

government and economic controllers, and capture hordes of blind

believers, is just what they need to take over the global economy

through a globalized dictatorial New World Order government. But even

if some of the blind believing Christians and Hindus fall for their

rhetoric -- I don't think they have a prayer in hell of ever

achieving such an aim in this skeptical if not enlightened age. ;-)

Unfortunately, according to a recent poll, nearly 44% of Americas

still believe that Jesus will return in their lifetimes. It would be

interesting to know what the percentages are in other countries.

However, if any such a "savior" shows up, is accepted by all of the

Christians and tries to rule over a "New World Order" global

government -- imagine what all the non-believer groups in each

country might do in response.

As for spreading the idea that the "dark forces use Judaism as a

mask"... That is a typical neo-Nazi propaganda ploy to blame the Jews

for the economic problems of the world. Hitler used these same anti-

Semitic propaganda techniques to blame all the Jews for the

depression in Germany that led to the Nazis, WW2, and the holocaust.

The only reason Germany is today one of the world's leading and most

prosperous economic powers (#3) is because of a deal, between the

original American-German (cartels) banker/financiers of the Nazi war

machine -- that enabled Hitler to start WW2 -- which led to the WORLD

BANK and IMF system in place today.

After the war, this cooperation continued with Operation Paper Clip

that brought the Nazi scientists along with some of their pro nazi

leaders into America -- which led to the Moon and NASA, and enabled

the rebuilding of Germany and its industries, along with the high

tech American war machine -- at immense profits to all the original

worldwide banker/financiers. The same "deal" was carried our with

Japan after their surrender. So, in that world of high finance, what

goes around, comes around. And their international cartel's

continued empowerment is assured by the continuous warfare in as many

remote places as possible throughout the world (so long as they are

not on their "homeland's" territories) .

Thus, the Federal Reserve Bank in America, as an independent part of

that system, can print money as needed to support its economy (that

is linked to the economy of all the European and friendly Asian

nations) -- sometimes to the detriment of the people dependent on

that economy (but not to the bankers themselves).

In the back rooms of the power elite, the picture of the world as it

is, and planned for as the New World Order of the future -- is

nothing like the ideal one pictured by the blind believers in a

personal God who sends down his avatar or Messiah in the flesh to

dictate, through a "New World Order" government, the paradise on

Earth that they expect will be like the Garden of Eden fantasy in the


So, in my view, since there are no gods, miracles, or saviors -- the

only real hope mankind has seems to be for the cycles itself to bring

on the worldwide disasters (pole shift, meteor strike, volcanic

eruption, atomic winter, world pandemic, etc.) that wipes out the

bulk of the world's population -- (which, by its continued

expansion, over-consumption and pollution can only contribute further

to the depletion of Earths resources and diversity of life... So that

the coming wave of sixth sub-racers can start over, almost from

scratch, and rebuild the New Order of the World on purely

theosophical principles.. . That respects nature, rather than

worshipping and hoping that a personal God, or the power of money can

save us from the present deterioration of the world's life supporting

resources. Present mankind has poisoned its own home, the biosphere,

and will have to pay the piper before it can recover under the

guidance of whatever remnant survives this minor apocalyptic


Or, we can all become true theosophists in whatever time we have

left, start practicing universal brotherhood, give up all selfishness

and greed, begin helping all those in need, and, by working together,

begin restoring the world to its pristine state -- so it wont be such

horrendous problem for the survivors and new agers.

But, since that seems to be almost impossible to achieve before it

becomes "too late to relate" -- I wouldn't hold my breath waiting

for it to happen before the solar system itself decides it's rime to

purge the bad seeds and their effluvia... Which is needed to allow

the good ones left, to start a new worldwide, government-less, true

theosophical society... So that our great, great, great grand kids

might find it a pleasant home in the future, and we may have and even

better place to come back to in our next lives. Be nice if everyone

could look that far ahead, for themselves, and start working toward

it now. Even if they lose out in the big wipe out, the positive

karma gained will stand them in good stead the next time around.

As HPB said, when all people know in their heart the truth of karma

and reincarnation -- mankind will finally have their Paradise on

Earth. But, unfortunately, knowing human nature, I don't see that

happening for a long long time... Although all true theosophists can

never stop working toward it, as individual nuclei of universal


(end of rant ;-)


On May 18, 2009, at 5/18/099:51 PM, Cass Silva wrote:

Will someone please explain to me in theosophical terms what the

motive is for these dark powers?


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From: Frank Reitemeyer <ringding2009@ t-online. de>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 7:24:51 AM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of


Leon, you have my day with your level-headed comments.

But one should not fall into the trap to assume that another

candidate is better.

They are all one and the same, otherwise they would not "set aside".

And if they ever get off track, they will have an accident.

Democracy needs enlightened people, whose eyes are open and who

have access to unfiltered information and are mental able to make a

right decision.

But that is not the case is those countries which claim to be a


Neither get the people true information, nor are they teached who

to make decisions, on the contrary, the social pressure and mass

media do all to hypnotize the people and format the brains.

Doubt is regarded as criminal.

Non-believe in mass-media ideologies can bring you into jail.

So no real progress since the alleged dark middle ages, only the

taboos have changed.

BTW, Ben Gurion announced in the American "The Look" magazine in

1968 the brave New World order with an Emperor, who will have His

coronation in Jerusalem.

So I hope that the Jews may awake before and recognize that Judaism

is misused as a mask by dark forces.


----- Original Message -----

From: Leon Maurer

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:49 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of



I don't want to burst your bubble, but that's the same kind of talk


that the early founders of the Catholic Church used -- that ended up

causing long periods of warfare and pogroms that caused deaths,

injuries, broken families and destruction of homes of countless

millions of people.

No matter what the motives are of the "false prophet" (Matthew

7:15-20) calling himself "Maitreya" (actually destined to come at the

end of Kali Yuga in about 400,000 years from now) -- who comes to

supposedly take charge of the global "New World Order" government --

it will be his sycophant inner circle of followers who will actually


And, as is well known to all students of history -- such absolute

power, in the hands of unenlightened and greedy people, always

corrupts absolutely. So, any government based on organized religion

centered around a divine Messianic figurehead, and dependent on

restrictive dictatorial laws to control the thoughts and actions of

the people, is destined to fail.

My hope (not fear) is that such a police state dictatorial government

never sneaks up on us -- like was attempted recently by another sweet

talking Jesus Christ loving, born again evangelical Christian -- who

slyly stole an election, became the US President and lied us into a

seemingly endless religious war -- with the help of his cabal of evil

minded political cronies. So, count on me to be one of the many

enemies of this false Messiah posing as Maitreya, and the New World

Order shadow government that backs him -- whoever he is or they are.

I'm afraid that any true theosophist who has already, or is studying

and practicing to reach full self realization, knows that none of the

works of man can ever solve the problems that man's works (guided by

edicts and rules created and sanctioned by their leaders, and

condoned by their personal greeds) has created. And no dictatorial

government set up to solve those problems can flourish without such

power, in the hands of the few, ending up just as corrupt as all

revolutionary movements eventually become, when they take over

dictatorial control of governing peoples lives.

Of course, no real theosophist is for a fully self governed, "no

rules" world... That is, untll ALL people are self realized and

enlightened. But, until then, the only good government would be a

true democratic government "of the people, by the people, and for the

people"... With a leadership that can be kicked out when the people

decide they are not serving the purpose they were elected for.

Surely,, such a government will never be ideal... But it is certainly

better than any dictatorship or monarchy over the long run.

And, agreed, the global monetary system would have to be radically

changed if such a true democracy could work effectively. But, we

must never forget that each group of people with similar customs

would have to remain free to practice them without interference -- so

long as they harm no one. So, a homogenous global governed world by

any dictatorial religious leader is not a realistic solution to the

world problems.

As it stands, the "New World Order" government you speak of, is the

same old plan for world dictatorship and takeover of the global

economy by the "Secret Society" of world bankers and brokers -- who

are just waiting for another phony Messiah to, knowingly or

unknowingly, act as their stooge in the role of world dictator --

under their guidance and control.

In no way can the ancient brotherhood of non interfering Masters and

Adepts be confused with this New World Order cabal of greedy elitists

and would be dictatorial monarchists.

While I don't believe in your personal God or his supposed coming

savior, I don't doubt your good intentions.. . Although, there is an

old truism saying that "the road to hell is paved with good

intentions." ;-)

But, be assured that no true theosophist has to worry about

"releasing the devil that is (supposedly) within them." ;-) The only

one's who have such devils in them are those who would sacrifice

individual liberty to a dictatorial government. So, maybe you should

study the fundamental teachings of theosophy before you start

preaching to those who truly understand and follow its Heart


So, stick with your love-teaching music, and stop trying to convert

into your religious beliefs, theosophists or any other spiritually

minded independent thinkers who, while they, too, may respect your

ideals, won't fall for smarmy, holier than thou talk -- when its

underlying motives lead to any sort of mind-controlling,

dictatorially religious governmental organization.

Incidentally, after going back in my unread letter files and reading

about your "overshadowing" as you call it -- I think you may have

experienced unconscious mediumistic Astral epiphanies that could have

been falsely interpreted as spiritual experiences. .. If so, I

recommend that you study some of the articles written by Blavatsky

about the Astral realm and the errors and dangers of such mediumship,

as contrasted with true adeptship. According to the occult laws,

there is no way for a living individual to contact an entity on the

spiritual plane -- although there are entities on the astral plane

(Buddhists call "hungry ghosts") that could mislead and be quite

evilly dangerous to a non adept. You can find such articles at:

http://www.blavatsk blavatsky- articles. htmt

Try this one for starters:

http://www.blavatsk arts/CaseOfObses sion.htm

Apparently your jumping from one mystical teaching to another and

your psychiatric breakdown experience are signs that should not be

ignored before your next Astral experience, unsolicited visions, or

uncontrolled kundalini awakening causes irrevocable damage... (That,

incidentally, could be especially dangerous if you have ever or are

now using psychoactive drugs.)

Best wishes,

Leon Maurer

On May 13, 2009, at 5/13/097:28 AM, Antonio/Tony None wrote:

Hi Leon,

I overstand your stance and your world views for a future based on

no rules. I feel this is commendable and eventually will become a

reality. Before this occurs the chaos in the world needs to be

addressed. I feel that the worlds choas needs to be drawn to one

central point and at that moment when the world awakens to the true

realisation will that point be destroyed and thus allow humanity to

move forward void of negative emotion. Fear surrounding the new

world orders plan is natural but the fact remains the freternal

brotherhood do exist and they do have an agenda to centralise all

power to one operating body. This is a very worrying and yet

exciting propesition. As head of this order, Maitreya will change

both internally and externally the processes by which we as humans

operate. From re-education, to the eradication of weapons. To

sharing with one another as a spiritual rush and taking the

monetary system totally out of the equation. The fact that

Maitrey may come to us via music is not something that should be

dismissed. God's biggest gift to Lucifer was music. My album will

be different and will totally challange spiritual concepts in our

reality but that will also be down to peoples interpretation.

People like yourself unwilling to accept such a movement as being

anything other than genuine and devinly inspired. You are the

people i need to reach most, the lost ones in the dark, searching

for the light, hoping for one day to realese the devil from within

you. Armegeddon is as much an inward battle as a world

transformation. It is ultimatly about vanquishing the evils from

within and emerging evolved into a connected higher state of

consciousness. If you fail to take this change on board your evils

will overwhelm and overcome you and evetually destroy you. So i

hope and pray that when you receive my words and my music that you

look on it with an open heart and you see the true intentions. The

intent to change a dying world through that one binding universal

truth. Love.

Peace and blessings


--- On Wed, 13/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com> wrote:

From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com>

Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of


To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Date: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009, 12:36 AM

Since the Masters knew what problems resulted from the

revealing of

their names by their first messenger (HPB) -- do you think they (or

their successors) would make the same mistake again when the new

messenger begins the new mission?

And, by all the rules set down by the Masters (and promulgated

through HPB) -- wouldn't the actual work on that mission have to

begin in I975 by someone already mature in the practical ways of the

modern world, fully educated and experienced in ALL the fine and

applied arts of current science, engineering and all levels of high

technology communication -- while also being fully indoctrinated


the theosophical teachings -- to at least the beginning of adeptship

-- as was HPB when she began her mission in 1875?

And, wouldn't all the occult powers -- that also attracted hordes of

superficial sycophants and resulted in many fraudulent copycats

during and after HPB's time -- be intentionally withheld from their

new agent (such as the power of foresight and other siddhis was

withheld from HPB)?

Obviously, of course, none of the present Masters would ever reveal

themselves, personally, or allow their messenger to expose their

names this time around. There would also no longer be a need to

attract members to the teachings through an organization, or to a

notorious personality. .. Since all that now matters would be to

prove the theosophical teachings beyond a shadow of a doubt, free

each human to be their own judge and master, as well as discredit


forms of organized religion based on supernatural causation,


Gods, vicarious atonement and living messiahs.


Think about all that, and try to imagine anyone in the Theosophical

Society, or appointed by its leaders, being in a position to fill

that role... Especially, anyone who is not fully indoctrinated into

the entire secret doctrine -- as thoroughly taught by HPB in ALL her


Didn't William Q. Judge say that there were only three books

necessary to fully comprehend theosophy -- which were, the Secret

Doctrine, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali?

(Is it any wonder, then, why he transliterated all three -- along

with their detailed commentaries and answers to questions?)

Isn't it, then, also obvious why the real identity of the messenger

could not be revealed until the actual scientific "proof" of the

Secret Doctrine metaphysics actually shows up in the scientific

journals and the mass media, and becomes worldwide public knowledge?

And, even then, the true messenger will not be known, since the

accredited, peer reviewable physicists who win the prize for such a

proof will never acknowledge who or what inspired them -- (as

Einstein never would think of giving credit to HPB for his

theories.;-) See:

http://leonmaurer. info/einstein. html

Only, then, will all true theosophists recognize the new teachings

(with no need to make the retired messenger their leader) and rally

together as true "companions" to form the nucleus of the "universal

brotherhood" ... That, by their example, teaches the rest of the


the true meaning and practice of the Heart Doctrine of theosophy as

the basis of *true* democratic government.. . With no need of a

messiah and his hierarchical leadership, New World Order police


governments, personal gods, priests, or religious organizations.

Thus, anyone who claims to be the new messenger, world teacher,

messiah, returned Christ, Maitreya, etc., before (or after) that

time, would necessarily be an impostor (or false prophet). And, the

biggest joke of all is the delusional idea that the "new message"

will be in the form of a musical album, sung by the messiah

himself ;-)

So, let's stop this endless speculative nonsense, and knuckle

down to

learning and teaching pure theosophy -- so we'll all be ready when

that "new message" shows up... And, afterward, have no need for

organizations or leaders to tell us how to act (as one) in whatever

way is necessary to turn this world back into the paradise it was

meant to be.

Best wishes,

Leon Maurer

On May 11, 2009, at 5/11/099:55 PM, Cass Silva wrote:

Does this mean that the person was born in 1975 - which would now

make him 35 years old or that in 1975 his mission began?


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From: danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro

Sent: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009 3:25:00 AM

Subject: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of


Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?

Alice Bailey claimed that "her teachings came from the same Occult

Brotherhood that taught HP Blavatsky . . . . Bailey's guide

professed to be the same Djual Khool that was one of HPB's

teachers. Bailey also declared that her guru was the same Master

Koot Hoomi that Blavatsky knew."

Many Bailey students have quoted the following passage from

H.P.B.'s pen in supporting the claim that Alice Bailey was the

expected new messenger of the Masters in the 20th century:

"In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far

better fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give final

and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-

Vidya; and that . . . the source of all religions and

philosophies . . . has been for many ages forgotten and lost to

men, but is at last found." S.D., 1888, Vol I, p. xxxviii (original


But Students should compare this 1888 statement with the following

two passages from HPB's pen. The first extract was written in

December 1888 and the second one dates from the middle of 1889.

The first passage reads:

"Let every member [of the Esoteric Section] know . . . that the

time for such priceless acquisition is limited. The writer of the

present is old; her life is well-nigh worn out, and she may be

summoned 'home' any day and almost any hour. And if her place is

even filled up, perchance by another worthier and more learned than

herself, still there remain but twelve years to the last hour of

the term - namely, till December the 31st, 1899. Those who will not

have profited by the opportunity (given to the world in every last

quarter of a century), those who will not have reached a certain

point of psychic and spiritual development, or that point from

which begins the cycle of adeptship, by that day - those will

advance no further than the knowledge already acquired. No Master

of Wisdom from the East will appear or send any one to Europe or

America after that period, and the sluggards will have to renounce

every chance

of advancement in their present incarnation - until the year 1975.

Such is the LAW, for we are in Kali Yuga - the Black Age - and the

restrictions in this cycle, the first 5,000 years of which will

expire in 1897, are great and almost insuperable. " HPB's Collected

Writings, Vol XII, pp. 491-492. Italics added.

The second passage is as follows:

". . .during the last quarter of every hundred years an attempt is

made by those 'Masters' . . . to help on the spiritual progress of

Humanity in a marked and definite way. Towards the close of each

century you will invariably find that an outpouring or upheaval of

spirituality - or call it mysticism if you prefer - has taken

place. Some one or more persons have appeared in the world as their

agents, and a greater or less amount of occult knowledge and

teaching has been given out . . . . .If the present attempt, in the

form of our Society, succeeds better than its predecessors have

done, then it will be in existence as an organized, living and

healthy body when the time comes for the effort of the XXth

century. The general condition of men's minds and hearts will have

been improved and purified by the spread of its teachings . . . .

but besides a large

and accessible literature ready to men's hands, the next impulse

will find a numerous and united body of people ready to welcome the

new torch-bearer of Truth. He will find the minds of men prepared

for his message, a language ready for him in which to clothe the

new truths he brings, an organization awaiting his arrival . . . ."

The Key to Theosophy, pp. 306-7. Italics added.

The three passages taken together indicate that HPB was referring

to an emissary of the Masters coming in 1975 or later. These

statements by HPB would seem to rule out the messenger being Alice

Bailey or many other claimants. For a list of such claimants, see:

http://blavatskyarc latermessengers. htm#six


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