Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00807)

Dear friends

My views are:

I would like the readers to provide improving suggestions and possible corrections to the following.
I could perhaps with advantage use more references in the below, but have avoided it to same time and space.
I am planning to e-mail the Vatican or a Church leader within the Catholic Church the following words.

Maybe some of us instead could rework the content and sign such a mutual Theos-talk protest or similar.
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I will have to raise my voice in a loud protest against some of the Catholic Church' views and the appearnt attacks upon the theosophical teachings and H. P. Blavatsky. We consider some of the statements on the NewAdvent website to be either distorting or wrong on their content.

Because on the official Catholic website NewAdwent we find the following and more about "Theosophy".

NEWADVENT SAYS about the Theosophical Society:
"A new importance of these teachings in modern thought is due to the school of Modern theosophy dating from the foundation of the Theosophical Society in New York City by Madame Blavatsky in 1875. She is the chief and only authority for the revelation of so-called Tibetan occultism. A.P. Sinnett however used the term Esoteric Buddhism. They claimed to have the true solution for the problems of the universe and of man from the Upanishads and Buddhist Sutras through Oriental savants, mahatmas, the faithful depositories of a profound and superhuman wisdom. In fact, a great part of their nomenclature is derived from India, and they seek there for a justification of teachings drifting about in modern thought and derived to a great extent, if not wholly, from neo-Platonic and Jewish sources through the Renaissance. The objects of the society are: to form the nucleus of a universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour; to encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy, and science; to investigate the unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in man. This last clause gives occasion to include magic, the occult, the uncanny, and the marvelous in any and every form. Madame Blavatsky, with Colonel Olcott, went to India in 1878. Shortly afterwards her frauds were exposed through letters written by her and published by Columb and his wife, who had been in her service. This was acknowledged by the London Society of Psychical Research, which in Nov., 1884 sent R. Hodgson, of St. John's College, Cambridge to investigate (Edmund Garrett, "Isis very much Unveiled", London, 1895; Francis Podmore, "Studies in Psychical Research"). In spite of this, however, the teaching was continued and propagated by her disciples Mrs. Besant, Col. Olcott, A.P. Sinnett, and others."
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"Hence there is on personal God, and for this reason Madame Blavatsky and Mrs. Besant say that theosophy is more readily embraced by Atheists and Agnostics. Hence also Colville could teach that the spirit or soul in man is the only real and permanent part of his being; everything else pertaining to him is illusory and transitory. Solidarity, i.e. the common life pervading all things, is thus made the basis of morality. Hence a wrong done to one is done to all, as e.g. an injury inflicted on one part of the human organism results in pain diffused and felt throughout. At the same time we are told that God is good and man immortal, that the "immanence of God justifies religion", i.e. the search after Him, that all things move to good and to man's benefit, that man must understand and co-operate with the scheme of things."
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14626a.htm


There are a number of wrong and distorting statements in the above text and the page as such.
Here follows some corrections, explanations, and theosophical views.

1) We disagree. H. P. Blavatsky is not the chief authority. The main idea of theosophical teachings was to be a Seeker After Truth. And the theosophical ideas are based on facts given in historical documents, buildings and other information. We hold to no authourity, but what each individual can prove to himself or herself on the Path towards higher consciousness and activities beyond thoughts. We are Seekers after Truth, hence the theosophical motto: "There is no Religion Higher than Truth". These views were described not only by H. P. Blavatsky, but also other theosophists before H. P. Blavatsky's time.

Theosophical teachings are not revelations! They never has been. H. P. Blavatsky never claimed blind belief in her being infallible like a Pope or a Bible. Theosophical teachings are not to believed blindly, but suggested as hypothesises one can apply to ones lifestyle.

2) H. P. Blavatsky and other theosophist, if they are true to their name, have never claimed as asserted in the above to have "the true solution for the problems of the universe and of man"!
Because the theosophical teachings always claim that truth is something relative. Yet various theosophists have claimed that what they wrote was the truth, provided, that what they said was understood and not misunderstood or simply denied based on mere belief without the use of reason and common sense. 

3) The Coulombs was not in the service of H. P. Blavatsky but in service of the Theosophical Society. They were servants, because sombody had to take care of the houshold, janitor activities and similar other issue.


4) There is no shred of evidence on that H. P. Blavatsky was exposed. There are instead evidence on that she was extremely unjustly attacked by the Coulombs and R. Hodgson as well as the Society of Psychical Research. All this have been shown by later theosophists and can be read about in theosophical books and on various Internet websites dedicated to telling the truth about the matter based on honest and fair documentation. Society of Psychical Research has even rejected or nullified the Hodgson Report on the Coulomb affair.

5) The theosophists have never been tired of telling the Catholic Church, that it never calls God a "He" and a gigantic male becuse it is a lie. Yet, the Catholic Church seems to be very eager to give the readers the impression, that we have such a view.

6) NewAdvent also said: "Solidarity, i.e. the common life pervading all things, is thus made the basis of morality." - We disagree somewhat with this view. We would prefer not to distort the theosophical teachings. The word "Solidarity" is not, what theosophical teachings tells us is the - basis - of morality. The basis of morality is pure altruism and non-duality beyond thought as well as their cultivation, and, NOT a dualistic Christian Heaven with "jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, and emerald" and streets of "gold" lightened by a Gigantic Vater Male given the name God. And not a dualistic Heaven where none enters if they do not follow the following: "There shall not enter into it any thing defiled or that worketh abomination or maketh a lie". So the moral basis of theosophy is certainly more than "Solidarity" towards Christians, because we care for those in need through the development of our altruism to a level higher than the Christians are allowed by the Church leaders and the common interpretation of their socalled infallible Bible.

7) NewAdvent also said:
"Theosophy is not only a basis of religion; it is also a philosophy of life. As such, its main teachings are reincarnation and the law of Karma."

We say no. Theosophy is not "a" religion. This has clearly been stated by H. P. Blavatsky and others. Try to read H. P. Blavatsky's article "IS THEOSOPHY A RELIGION?". 

H. P. Blavatsky said:
"Thus Theosophy is not a Religion, we say, but RELIGION itself, the one bond of unity, which is so universal and all-embracing that no man, as no speck--from gods and mortals down to animals, the blade of grass and atom--can be outside of its light. Therefore, any organization or body of that name must necessarily be a UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD."

A Church or Society can be said to be known on its level of compassion.


8) NewAdwent also said in criticism of theosophy:
"In of a Christian ethical phraseology, theosophy in reality is a form of pantheism, and denies a personal God and personal immortality."


H. P. Blavatsky said that pantheism not really a proper word to use:
"Well, we neither take into consideration this objective and material nature, which we call an evanescent illusion, nor do we mean by pan Nature, in the sense of its accepted derivation from the Latin Natura (becoming, from nasci, to be born). When we speak of the Deity and make it identical, hence coeval, with Nature, the eternal and uncreate nature is meant, and not your aggregate of flitting shadows and finite unrealities. We leave it to the hymn-makers to call the visible sky or heaven, God's Throne, and our earth of mud His footstool. Our DEITY is neither in a paradise, nor in a particular tree, building, or mountain: it is everywhere, in every atom of the visible as of the invisible Cosmos, in, over, and around every invisible atom and divisible molecule; for IT is the mysterious power of evolution and involution, the omnipresent, omnipotent, and even omniscient creative potentiality. "

We consider thoughts to be limited.


9) NewAdwent also said in criticism of theosophy:
" No evidence or proof is given for its teaching except the simple statements of its leaders."

And we say, that if we have no valid proof to give, then no Christian can give any proof of their teachings either.

Yet we claim that we can prove, that our teachings are correct, when they are understood.
Today science claims that possesion of parapsychological senses (clairvoyance, remote-viewing, telepathy etc.) are more true than not! And that is why science carry on doing research into the issue in various countries, despite the Catholic Church appearntly claims that it is nonsense. There has been several testimonies on small children from time to time are able to know and remember things of the past they really aught not be able to know about. They for instance say that they have lived before as another person in another country well known to them even when they have never visited that country. And they know details about various subjects from where they claim to have lived, which they impossibly could have known about. 

And since thoughts according to us are limited, just like those without parapsychological knowledge in a sense are ignorant, we say that proof can be given provided the researcher himself or herself are prepared to seek to develop these faculties. The same we claim when talking about that theosophical teachings at its core is altruism, and when we claim that altrusim can be cultivated through various methods provided one honestly will do an effort in that direction. And since altruism to us theosophists is important because of the Law of Distributive Karma (See The Key to Theosophy, p. 202-203)

We aught to remember, that theosophical teachings say claim that a some Masters are able, when Karma allows it, to materialise themselves not only as humans, but also as those little Green Men or Woman which are spoken so much about these days of UFO and Alien talks. Therefore we consider all humans to be not only humans but also Aliens. And some Aliens might multiply in a different manner than humans do; with the exception of artificial insemination taken into account. Some of us have just not learned about it yet. Not that we need to become Aliens to actually know about it.


10) NewAdwent also said in criticism of theosophy:
"The denial of a personal God nullifies its claim to be a spiritualistic philosophy."

We say that it certainly depends on how one defines the term "spiritualistic philosophy".
And we ask you to prove to us how a Society can be said to have "charlatanism" as its teaching, when it claims that all religions can become a member provided, that they will follow the objects of the Society, primarily the first one: "to form the nucleus of a universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour". And when the Society has as its motto: There is No Religion Higher than the Truth. We theosophists are Seekers after Truth.



With the hope, that the Catholic Church will improve in its journey towards pure altruism and give us and the world a compassionate response.


M. Sufilight





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