Theos-Talk Archives (April 2009 Message tt00222)

Dear MKR

My views are:


MKR Wrote:
"After transplanting TS in India and establishing the world headquarters in
Adyar, TS grew world-wide. The growth was rapid during the years when Annie
Besant was the President and the World Teacher project was progressing."

Yes.
But the question which I find begging to be asked is, WHY did this growth happen, so rapid?

Was it due to HPB's or Masters phenomenon, or due to who the persons she showed them was, or the Masters helped them by inspiring others, or merely due to time, place and people? And could it at all have happened without HPB's or Masters phenomenon?

(Important. And it did not happen despite opposition from many serious enemies of TS? - See HPB in The Key to Thosophy: "I am so prepared, on the contrary. I do not call the enemies we have had to battle with during the first nine or ten years of the Society's existence either powerful or "dangerous"; but only those who have arisen against us in the last three or four years. And these neither speak, write nor preach against Theosophy, but work in silence and behind the backs of the foolish puppets who act as their visible marionnettes. Yet, if invisible to most of the members of our Society, they are well known to the true "Founders" and the protectors of our Society. But they must remain for certain reasons unnamed at present. ", p. 271-272)

And was this growth in members the same emotional "magical" stunt, which the J. Krishnamurti scheme created; the World Teacher of the Age being discovered by an alleged "magical" phaedophile? (And can help thinking that something is dead wrong here.)
Can we not say, that since J. Krishnamurti died the emontional "magic" build around him in TS so to speak disappeared, and now TS is bound to be split up into at least two fractions? That is unless people come to their senses and return to the original programe, which was changed when various bad events happened in the period of 1906-1912.

And after all do we find that growth in membership is that important? Is it not growth in Quality members, which are very important - and in fact crucial? - And I suggest to concider whether this is what is lacking due to not following the original programe.


Now I just asked a few questions and threw in a few of my wellknown views upon the matter.
I did it so to make at least a few readers understand, that the present acceptance of the CWL / J. Krishnamurti line is not in accordance with the Masters teachings, and was in fact better kept in the TS (library) corner of mistakes of various degrees, while relating new solid teaching to the original programe. A bad atmosphere are in fact being kept alive, by seeking to silence the truth.




M. Sufilight



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MKR 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:59 AM
  Subject: Theos-World Move of TS to India and current status





  HPB was sent to the USA to find HSO and launch the TS in New York. HPB
  clearly stated that she was following the orders from the Lodge and the two
  Brothers from Tibet. Both were then ordered to go to India. India was
  unknown to HSO and the future prospects were totally unknown. They left for
  India because of their total trust and confidence in the wisdom of the
  Brothers. The life and travel in India was very difficult for someone who
  grew up in the West.

  HPB knew USA was the cradle of the next Root Race and was aware of the great
  future progress of the Humanity lies in the USA. But, anyone who did not
  have an inkling of the wisdom of the Brothers would have thought that HPB
  and HSO were foolish to go India with unknown future.

  After transplanting TS in India and establishing the world headquarters in
  Adyar, TS grew world-wide. The growth was rapid during the years when Annie
  Besant was the President and the World Teacher project was progressing.

  After the Jiddu Krishnamurtiâs announcement of his Truth is a Pathless Land
  message, the membership world-wide took a hit. But the basic foundation that
  developed till then, continued to remain strong as ever even thought the
  membership numbers did not reflect the inherent strength. Many may dispute
  this. There is no objective way to measure the strength. One indication that
  is worth noting is that even today, world-wide, there are numerous TS
  members who study Krishnajiâs lectures and watch the videos.

  The issue of relevance of India to TS relative to the rest of the world has
  come into sharp focus in the recent election. Membership in India has shown
  steady growth from year to year during the last several decades. On the
  other hand, in most of the countries outside India, it has been stagnant or
  on a downward slide. Of course those who find excuses for everything will
  argue the issue of quantity vs quality. There is no proof to substantiate
  this.

  Currently the membership in India is the largest. I think this fact is a
  significant evidence of the wisdom of the Brothers in their decision to move
  the TS to India. A significant result of this fact is that anyone who
  aspires to lead the TS in the future has to have substantial support from
  the members in India. Without substantial support from members in India, no
  candidate can get elected. The numerical strength of members in India is
  also a bulwark against any future administrationâs attempt to belittle Adyar
  as a token site of TS.

  It is pitiful to watch the events since the start of the election last year.
  Presenting untruthful health information about Radha Burnier to members
  outside India with the simple objective of defeating the sitting president
  is unprecedented in the TS history. Also the unsubstantiated attempt to
  allege procedural errors in voting in India enraged most membership in
  India, which will make the motivation of any candidate from outside India
  highly suspect in the minds of members for a long time to come. Compounding
  all of the above was the attempted coup to seize the presidency by
  disenfranchising membership world-wide and control appointment of future
  presidents by a handful of GC members.

  The overwhelming membership in India and the role played by Internet in
  demolishing the untruthful information and the distribution of the coup
  discovery prevented a fatal blow to the TS.

  I think that all of the above are an indication of the foresight of the
  Brothers and some may poo-poo the whole idea.

  MKR

  There is no religion higher than truth

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