Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00030)

Maybe this could help?


Master KH's letter to AP Sinnett, juli 1882:
"That the highest people now on earth belong to the first sub-race of the fifth race, the majority to the seventh sub-race of the fourth race but with remnants of the other sub-races of the fourth race and the seventh sub-race of the third race. Pray set us quite right on this. "...etc. etc.

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"4th round. -- Intellect has an enormous development in this round. The dumb races will acquire our human speech, on our globe, on which from the 4th race language is perfected and knowledge in physical things increases. At this half-way point of the fourth round, Humanity passes the axial point of the minor manwantaric circle. (Moreover, at the middle point of every major or root race evolution of each round, man passes the equator of his course on that planet, the same rule applying to the whole evolution or the seven rounds of the minor Manwantara -- 7 rounds divided by 2 = 3 1/2 rounds). At this point then the world teems with the results of intellectual activity and spiritual decrease. In the first half of the fourth race, sciences, arts, literature and philosophy were born, eclipsed in one nation, reborn in another. Civilization and intellectual development whirling in septenary cycles as the rest; while it is but in the latter half that the spiritual Ego will begin its real struggle with body and mind to manifest its transcendental powers. Who will help in the forthcoming gigantic struggle? Who? Happy the man who helps a helping hand. 

5th Round. -- The same relative development, and the same struggle continues. "

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-14.htm


Is there a fascimile somewhere?



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frank Reitemeyer 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: 4th sub-race


  Govert wrote:

  From the quotes below (the 'dead letter' interpretation) it looks like
  we are in Root-race 5 (Aryan), Sub-race 5 (Teutonic). Two quotes from
  HPB and one by 'Alpha' reflecting the understanding of a member. This
  understanding is also reflected in a little graph by Jinarajadasa,
  which some might call the Besant-Leadbeater interpretation, but might
  very well be in accordance with HPB. See:
  http://users.ez2.net/nick29/theosophy/lessons15.htm
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  Frank answers:
  Thank you, Govert, for the link to the graph of the Besant-Leadbeater 
  interpretation of the doctrine of the races.
  From where to they have the names of the races? From HPB?
  From their "Maha-Chohan"? Or from the Logos?

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  Govert wrote:

  If HPB contradicted herself, and if to save her from the charge of
  inconsistency by saying that some of her statements were blinds, in
  what way are we to reconcile these contradictions? How do we know
  what's a blind and what not? And if a contradiction is found and one
  of the statements therefore allegedly a blind, does that make the
  subject more important?

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  Frank answers:

  I hope, that HPB contradicted herself, as Europeans still greatest 
  metaphysicial - if not theosophist - Hegel says, that a contradiction is 
  always the sign of the truth and th enon-contradiction the sign of the 
  untruth.
  How do we know? Simply by studying the mystery language.

  I don't think that a blind comes always with a contradiction, but I hope 
  that HPB used contradictions to make it easier for lay-chelas to understand.



   

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