Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00054)

Yes, Mike, I am not surprised that you may have been taken out of context.ÂÂ However, you have made the comment that HPB was racist - can you expand on where you see racism in her works?

Cass




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From: mikefitz_uk <mikefitz_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 5 January, 2009 11:03:17 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Dark Fellowships: The Vril


Hello everyone

Like Theo, I was also a contributor to the 'Dark Fellowships: The 
Vril Society.'

The first point I'd like to make is that I was filmed and interviewed 
for three hours and yet only around fifteen minutes of my interview 
and filming appeared on the programme.

More importantly, I was quoted out of context. Single sentences were 
taken entirely uprooted from the background in which I had said them.

The result was to give a somewhat superficial rendition of my views. 

I have little doubt that Theo and the other two contributors also 
experienced this treatment.

On the specific question of Blavatsky's racism, I am afraid that she 
was a woman of her time and country. There is little doubt that she 
DID hold racist views although it is a long way from simple racism to 
any kind of assimilation with the far more sinister Nazi philosophy.

I regard Blavatsky as having made important contributions in her work 
but like all of us she had her blind spots.

Theo, it is nice to meet you even if only online!

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Drpsionic@.. . wrote:
>
> Oh, Bearden is still banging his scalar drum!
> 
> Chuck the Heretic
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/21/2008 11:36:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> Augoeides-222@ ... writes:
> 
> Cass,
> Hmmm I was just reading an interesting origination that seems 
somewhat 
> aligned:
> 
> >>>Mash-mak Said to be used by the Atlanteans, the fourth root-
race, for the 
> great potent sidereal force, which Bulwer Lytton called in one of 
its 
> earthly manifestations Vril.<<<
> 
> Here is the link:
> 
> Tom Bearden --- Quantum Potential Weapons
> 
> >>>http://www.cheniere .org/misc/ qp.htm<<<
> 
> Happy Holidays and New Year to all Members here,
> John
> 
> 
> ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- 
> From: "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...> 
> Well said, Cass.
> 
> I never have found anything anti-semitic (directed against 
ethnological 
> units of Semits, of Arab or Jewish origin) or racist in 
Blavatsky's writings.
> Exept you call the fact racist that races exists and that races 
differ 
> psychical and spiritual.
> 
> But that would make the Mahatmas also racists.
> 
> Frank
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Cass Silva 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Dark Fellowships: The Vril
> 
> Yes I have seen the documentary Theo and I was disappointed to 
hear that you 
> held the opinion that HPB held anti-semitic and racist ideas. I 
can only 
> think that you haven't understood what she was saying. However, if 
you would 
> like to give examples of these ideas we can discuss it.
> 
> Seems to me HPB saw the problem if this force got into the wrong 
hands and 
> intuitively I think that is why Keely abandoned his experiments.
> 
> Cass
> Mash-mak Said to be used by the Atlanteans, the fourth root-race, 
for the 
> great potent sidereal force, which Bulwer Lytton called in one of 
its earthly 
> manifestations Vril.
> 
> "It is this vibratory Force, which, when aimed at an army from an 
Agni Rath 
> fixed on a flying vessel, a balloon, according to the instructions 
found in 
> Ashtar Vidya, reduced to ashes 100,000 men and elephants, as 
easily as it 
> would a dead rat. It is allegorised in the Vishnu Purana, "in the 
fable about the 
> sage Kapila whose glance made a mountain of ashes of King Sagara's 
60,000 
> sons, and which is explained in the esoteric works, and referred to 
as the 
> Kapilaksha -- 'Kapila's Eye' " (SD 1:563).
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: paijmanstheo <th.paijmans@ ...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 20 December, 2008 4:26:00 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Dark Fellowships: The Vril
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> As I am one having been interviewed for and appearing in the
> documentary - perhaps I couls answer some questions here?
> 
> Sincere regards,
> 
> Theo
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, MKR <mkr777@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone recently saw on the Discovery Channel, the 
documentary
> titled,
> > "Dark Fellowships: The Vril"?
> > 
> > Amazon which sells the DVD, states:
> > "Uncover the truth surrounding one of the most renowned and 
feared
> > organizations in the world ÃÂÃâÂ" the Vril Society. Explore 
conspiracy
> theories,
> > retrace historical events, and investigate internal agendas while
> uncovering
> > the secrets of the society's macabre rituals.
> > 
> > Discover what occult rites were performed by this dangerous 
group in
> their
> > dark lust for ultimate power and learn how and where this
> organization ÃÂÃâÂ"
> > which existed at the core of the Nazi Party ÃÂÃâÂ" still thrives 
today,
> almost
> > 100 years after its founding."
> > 
> > Some members in NZ who happened to watch this, noted that a very
> well-known
> > theosophist in England, Edi Billimoria is on the documentary
> presenting the
> > view of TS.
> > 
> > In my area, the documentary is planned to be shown next couple of
> weeks. May
> > be it will be shown in your area soon.
> > 
> > MKR
> > 
> > 
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