Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00055)

The past cannot be changed so why waste energy on 'he said - she said'
Cass




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From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 4 January, 2009 6:39:24 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?


Dear friends and Zaitzev

My views are:

Zaitzev wrote:
"Probably because Bailey criticized Leadbeater and Adyar leadership of
that time?"

My answer:
But is that an valid answer if we should follow the view by HPB, one aught to compare notes before centencing a persons. Or should we not?

Zaitzev wrote:
"Yet it was her peronal opinion, while the author of her books, the
Tibetan, was much better dosposed to Leadbeater."

My answer:
Was he?
Have you meet him? The Bailey D.K., who claims that Jesus was born in Bethlehem and will come in the near future and walk freely among men in the flesh?

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Konstantin Zaitzev 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:24 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
<global-theosophy@ ...> wrote:

> So that is why they sell books by W. C. Leadbeater and not by Alice
A. Bailey or other claimed theosophical teachers?

Probably because Bailey criticized Leadbeater and Adyar leadership of
that time?

"A strong phase of psychism was sweeping through the society due to
the psychic pronouncements of Mr. Leadbeater and his extraordinary
control over Mrs. Besant. The aftermath of the Leadbeater scandal was
still causing much talk. Mrs. Besant's pronouncements about
Krishnamurti were splitting the society wide open. Orders were going
out from Adyar, based upon what were claimed to be orders to the Outer
Head by one of the Masters, that every member of the Theosophical
Society had to throw his interests into one or all of the three modes
of work&#8212;the Co-Masonic Order, the Order of Service and an educational
movement. If you did not do so you were regarded as being disloyal,
inattentive to the requests of the Masters and a bad Theosophist.
Books were being published at Adyar by Mr. Leadbeater that were
psychic in their implications and impossible of verification, carrying
a strong note of astralism. One of his major works, Man: Whence, How
and Whither, was a book that proved to me the basic untrustworthiness
of what he wrote. It is a book that outlines the future and the work
of the Hierarchy of the future, and the curious and arresting thing to
me was that the majority of the people slated to hold high office in
the Hierarchy and in the future coming civilisation were all Mr.
Leadbeater's personal friends. I knew some of these people&#8212; worthy,
kind, and mediocre, none of them intellectual giants and most of them
completely unimportant. I had travelled so widely and had met so many
people whom I knew to be more effective in world service, more
intelligent in serving the Christ, and more truly exponents of
brotherhood that my eyes were opened to the futility and uselessness
of this kind of literature." (Unfinished Biography)

Yet it was her peronal opinion, while the author of her books, the
Tibetan, was much better dosposed to Leadbeater.

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