Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00028)

Dear friends and Zaitzev

My views are:

Zaitzev wrote:
"What? Books by Bailey? They are. Not only in English but in German and
Russian too."


My answer:
And ALL of them First editions? I doubt that! 

It is for instance - as far as I am aware - not written anywhere online, that the book "Problems of Humanity" have seen several editions..

The Lucis Trust are not themselves ONLY allowing their "Christian vocabulary" Alice A. Bailey books to be read by those who would leave their private adress and other information to them. They have changed their policy during the past few years, because earliere on the books was allowed to be read freely online, without they interferred demanding info from the reader.

I do not like this idea about gathering info on various persons.


Zaitzev wrote:
"And what's bad about that? They use UN to promote their teaching, not
using T.S. to promote UN or any other political movement."

My answer:
So you admit that Lucis Trust are political, saying "They use UN to promote their teaching"???
Sure it is "their" teaching, and not a TS teaching.

Are you saying that Alice A. Bailey are not promoting the UN? Please explain.


Zaitzev wrote:
"As for invocation, the bailists quote the same Key To Theosophy in
support of that:" ...etc.


My answer:
I hold that to be a fat lie in the sense, that Alice A. Bailey and almost all of her followers never teach about "God within themselves", Atma=Brahman!


H. P. Blavatsky said:
LET NO THEOSOPHIST, IF HE WOULD HOLD TO DIVINE, NOT HUMAN TRUTH, SAY THAT THIS "GOD IN SECRET" LISTENS TO, OR IS distinct from, EITHER FINITE MAN OR THE FINITE ESSENCES - FOR ALL ARE ONE.

Such prayers in the Alice A. Bailey groups are doing a great job in killing self-reliance and self-confidence. H. P. Blavatsky about Prayer in the dualistic sense: "It kills in man self-reliance; "



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Konstantin Zaitzev 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:16 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?


  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
  <global-theosophy@...> wrote:

  > And all of them are - first editions - and also alvailable on the
  Internet or elsewhere for free?

  What? Books by Bailey? They are. Not only in English but in German and
  Russian too.

  > So I take it, that Radha Burnier in secret are promoting the New
  World Order, the Externalization of the Hierarchy within UN, the Great
  Invocation

  And what's bad about that? They use UN to promote their teaching, not
  using T.S. to promote UN or any other political movement.
  As for invocation, the bailists quote the same Key To Theosophy in
  support of that:

  "Q. Do you not believe at all in the efficacy of prayer?
  A. Not in prayer taught in so many words and repeated externally, if
  by prayer you mean the outward petition to an unknown God as the
  addressee, which was inaugurated by the Jews and popularized by the
  Pharisees.
  Q. Is there any other kind of prayer?
  A. Most decidedly; we call it will-prayer, and it is rather an
  internal command than a petition."

  To the latter kind they ascribe the Great Invocation, because they are
  not asking for something but say "Let...". It's a kind of affirnation.

  > THEOSOPHIST. We do not. We act, instead of talking. "

  As for action, bailists act much more than theosophists, while the
  latter are talking more.



   

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