Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00327)

Theo,
   Thanks for your post and views they are worthy reading. I did years ago make mention of "The Midnight Sun" in one or two of my own posts. I did not mean to give anyone an idea that I in any way subscribed to the "Black Sun" of the Nazi which I don't in any way. My reference and usage was of a personal interior spiritual experience I once had. And due to that I used a personal euphynism of "The Midnight Sun" which is in holding of the Gnostic idea of the uninitiated being in Darkness. It happens that they can experience the vision of an Interior Sun of the Being, which is what I saw as a portion of my experience in 1981. I will not describe it to people but there were several defined transformations before the Sun appeared. It was in no way anything related to Vril or Nazi.

Regards,
John

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From: "paijmanstheo" <th.paijmans@wxs.nl> 
Moreover, the whole Black Sun mythos if post World war II, and stems
from the circles around Wilhelm Landig (who wrote about it in his
1970's Gotze gegen Thule trilogy), Emil Ridiger (who was a follower of
Weisthor) and soforth.

The Viennese group used it with great effect, as currently everybody
who is too lazy to do some serious research believes in this farrago
of nonsense.

The idea that the black sun had been a Nazi obsession even going back
to before world war II, has been thoroughly demolished and discounted
by scholars like Hans Jurgen Lange, and Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke (in
his 'Black Sun'). You'll find additional info in Joscelyn Godwyn's
'Arktos The Polar Myth'.

But a Vril Society did exist.

SAincere regards,

Theo

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@... wrote:
>
> Thank you. The more real information we have the better.
> 
> Chuck the Heretic
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/20/2008 1:18:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
> th.paijmans@... writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The whole Aldebaran stuff is nonsense too and is just a mid 1990's
> embellishment by a couple of Viennese dilletants.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Theo
> 
> --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) , 
> Drpsionic@, Dr
> >
> > Ok, let's do this right.
> > 
> > There is a lot of nonsense about the Vril out there and I hope I get
> to see 
> > the documentary to see how much nonsense it continues with. These
> things 
> > have to be seen in their historic context but the most interesting
> feature of 
> > the Vril is not the flying saucer that never existed or we would all
> be speaking 
> > German, but rather the attempts to communicate with Aldebaran, or
> something 
> > living out near there. And then we get into the question of whether
> the 
> > Black Sun is Aldebaran or located in the center of the Earth.
> > 
> > 
> > Chuck the Heretic
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 12/19/2008 7:20:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> > mkr777@ writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Has anyone recently saw on the Discovery Channel, the documentary 
> titled,
> > "Dark Fellowships: The Vril"?
> > 
> > Amazon which sells the DVD, states:
> > "Uncover the truth surrounding one of the most renowned and feared
> > organizations in the world â�" the Vril Society. Explore 
conspiracy
> theories,
> > retrace historical events, and investigate internal agendas while 
> uncovering
> > the secrets of the society's macabre rituals.
> > 
> > Discover what occult rites were performed by this dangerous group
> in their
> > dark lust for ultimate power and learn how and where this
> organization â�"
> > which existed at the core of the Nazi Party â�" still thrives
> today, almost
> > 100 years after its founding."
> > 
> > Some members in NZ who happened to watch this, noted that a very
> well-known
> > theosophist in England, Edi Billimoria is on the documentary
> presenting the
> > view of TS.
> > 
> > In my area, the documentary is planned to be shown next couple of
> weeks. May
> > be it will be shown in your area soon.
> > 
> > MKR
> > 
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