Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00258)

No calories at all.Only needs great understanding and overthinking 
which cost a lot of calories( energy) for some ones.

Light on the path by mabel collins.






--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
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> The Path light, hmm sounds good, is that low calories?
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> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemaker 
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
> From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...>
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:23 PM
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> But I have a freeze full and never ends its fresh assortment and 
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> gives the late desires satisfaction. I don't need to eat "the light 
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> the path"
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> Christina
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:
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> > Lol Christina,
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> > Supermarkets are the place to use your brains else you get 
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> on your money,,,
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> > --- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemake r 
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> <christinaleestemak er@> wrote:
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> > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@>
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> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
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> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 5:53 PM
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> >             Hi Gregg,
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> > Welcome to the club.
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> > How do I see who I am.
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> > From very young my mother asked me and I said, that I am a part 
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> > Of course, human,etherical, psychological and physical  in nature.
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> > Not a being who has been before.
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> > While later I have had visions in consciousness( awaking state) 
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> > some life before.Have to do with Isis, litary in Philae temple.
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> > My brain don't manage me. I am far above that.And it works most 
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> > the time.Only in supermarket I lost my brain. And money hahah!!!
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> > Why you want to know? Have some resemblances?
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> > Interested Christina.
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> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "F Gregg Meagher" 
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> > > Hi Christina!
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> > > How do you see 'You' to be?
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> > > Human and Physical in nature?
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> > > Or a 'Being' who has been, let's say dressed into a 'body' 
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> > > Does your 'brain' manage you?
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> > > Or, is it a control room with an elaborated sensor system ... 
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> > > manage within the physical state of existence?
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> > > In brief, for 'you' > Who are you?
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> > > Thanks for your time in reading the above.
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> > > Gregg
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> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:31 PM, christinaleestemake r <
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> > > > If I have read all written about this subject I came to this:
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> > > > There is only one absolute reality which put out its 
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> > > > only through the pralaya state into worlds and different 
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> > > > different ways.All the same in multidimensional vibrations.
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> > > > So if we see on earth dark, everywere else it could be light 
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> > > > lighter, because it is light.Only question is why we see dark 
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> > > > on the material influenze from this earth.Elsewere under 
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> > > > astral,ether or subether makes only there other fews of the 
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> > > > How to make it difficult; Christina
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> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 
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> > Leon
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> > > > Maurer <leonmaurer@ > wrote:
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> > > > > Hi Cass,
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> > > > > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier 
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> > > > > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future. (Perhaps 
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> > > > > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been 
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> > > > > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
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> > > > > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be 
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> > > > > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt. Already research is being
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> > > > > that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience 
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> > > > > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is 
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> > > > > our higher mind... Pretty much the way HPB described it (if 
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> > > > > read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" 
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> > > > cut
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> > > > > through all the "blinds").
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> > > > > As for the previous universe and pralaya...
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> > > > > All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to 
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> > > > > and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back 
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> > > > > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its 
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> > > > > energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite 
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> > > > > (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while 
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> > > > > containing all the information as holographic wave 
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> > > > > patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature 
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> > > > > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE
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> > > > thing...
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> > > > > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and 
circumference
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> > > > nowhere".
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> > > > > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic
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> > > > > "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially 
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> > > > > black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose 
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> > > > > center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)
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> > > > > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... 
Ready 
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> > > > > up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all
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> > > > > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher 
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> > > > > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-) 
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> > > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/evolution2. gif
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> > > > > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis
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> > > > > analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all 
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> > > > > galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through 
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> > > > > system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical
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> > > > > waves) of light. See:
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> > > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/PhotonField. gif
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> > > > > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
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> > > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/Chakrafield- 
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> > > > > For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about 
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> > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=FjHJ7FmV0M4
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> > > > > All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity,
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> > > > Feynman's
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> > > > > quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram' s' holographic 
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> > > > Kaluza-
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> > > > > Klien-Greene- Witten-Kaku' s string and membrane physics --
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> > > > certainly
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> > > > > is "scientific" ... And, all of it totally consistent with 
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> > > > > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the 
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> > > > > Dzyan, as explained by HPB.
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> > > > > Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits
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> > > > > speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new 
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> > > > > (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, 
animals,
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> > > > humans,
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> > > > > etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like 
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> > > > > ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The microcosm
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> > > > > are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient 
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> > > > > So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite 
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> > > > > particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger 
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> > > > > ad infinitum. And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers 
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> > > > "All
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> > > > > is Maya" or illusion. (But, this cannot be "scientific, " 
even
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> > > > > actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the
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> > > > physical/
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> > > > > material or measurable universe). So, what we need is a new
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> > > > > scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical 
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> > > > > "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)
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> > > > > Best wishes,
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> > > > > Leon Maurer
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> > > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13 (NEW)
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> > > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/
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> > > > > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
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> > > > > > Hi Leon
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> > > > > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 
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> > > > > > Still the problem remains - from where the previous 
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> > > > > > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-
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> > > > > > concept. Did HPB mention anything about conditions during
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> > > > > > ps Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees 
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> > > > > > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings 
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> > > > > > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in 
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> > > > > > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others. 
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> > > > > > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with 
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> > > > > > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what 
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> > > > > > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was 
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> > > > > > popping in and out of existence! And this from the 
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> > > > > > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ >
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> > > > > > To: jcs-online Study forum <jcs-online@ yahoogro 
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> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM
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> > > > > > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big 
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> > > > > > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic 
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> > > > > > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to
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