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Re: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?

Dec 17, 2008 11:20 AM
by Martin


The Path light, hmm sounds good, is that low calories?

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com>
Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:23 PM










    
            Yes, it is what I said.

But I have a freeze full and never ends its fresh assortment and 

gives the late desires satisfaction. I don't need to eat "the light on 

the path"

:-)

Christina



--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:

>

> Lol Christina,

> 

> Supermarkets are the place to use your brains else you get screwed 

on your money,,,

> 

> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemake r 

<christinaleestemak er@...> wrote:

> From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@...>

> Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?

> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 5:53 PM

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>     

>             Hi Gregg,

> 

> Welcome to the club.

> 

> 

> 

> How do I see who I am.

> 

> From very young my mother asked me and I said, that I am a part of 

a 

> 

> whole, ... whomb you can call it.

> 

> Of course, human,etherical, psychological and physical  in nature.

> 

> Not a being who has been before.

> 

> While later I have had visions in consciousness( awaking state) 

about 

> 

> some life before.Have to do with Isis, litary in Philae temple.

> 

> My brain don't manage me. I am far above that.And it works most of 

> 

> the time.Only in supermarket I lost my brain. And money hahah!!!

> 

> Why you want to know? Have some resemblances?

> 

> Interested Christina.

> 

> 

> 

> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "F Gregg Meagher" 

> 

> <f.gregg.meagher@ ...> wrote:

> 

> >

> 

> > Hi Christina!

> 

> > How do you see 'You' to be?

> 

> > Human and Physical in nature?

> 

> > Or a 'Being' who has been, let's say dressed into a 'body' 

suitable 

> 

> for a

> 

> > journey into the physical experience?

> 

> > Does your 'brain' manage you?

> 

> > Or, is it a control room with an elaborated sensor system ... for 

> 

> you to

> 

> > manage within the physical state of existence?

> 

> > In brief, for 'you' > Who are you?

> 

> > Thanks for your time in reading the above.

> 

> > Gregg

> 

> > 

> 

> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:31 PM, christinaleestemake r <

> 

> > christinaleestemake r@...> wrote:

> 

> > 

> 

> > >   Dear All,

> 

> > > If I have read all written about this subject I came to this:

> 

> > > There is only one absolute reality which put out its 

manifestation

> 

> > > only through the pralaya state into worlds and different times 

> 

> and in

> 

> > > different ways.All the same in multidimensional vibrations.

> 

> > > So if we see on earth dark, everywere else it could be light or

> 

> > > lighter, because it is light.Only question is why we see dark 

> 

> depends

> 

> > > on the material influenze from this earth.Elsewere under 

> 

> influenze of

> 

> > > astral,ether or subether makes only there other fews of the same

> 

> > > output.

> 

> > >

> 

> > > How to make it difficult; Christina

> 

> > >

> 

> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. 

com>, 

> 

> Leon

> 

> > > Maurer <leonmaurer@ > wrote:

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > Hi Cass,

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier 

> 

> toward

> 

> > > > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future. (Perhaps 

this

> 

> > > is

> 

> > > > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been telling 

us

> 

> > > is

> 

> > > > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be 

demonstrated

> 

> > > as

> 

> > > > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt. Already research is being

> 

> > > planned

> 

> > > > that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience it, 

> 

> that

> 

> > > > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is 

> 

> already

> 

> > > in

> 

> > > > our higher mind... Pretty much the way HPB described it (if 

you

> 

> > > can

> 

> > > > read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" 

and

> 

> > > cut

> 

> > > > through all the "blinds").

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > As for the previous universe and pralaya...

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to 

expand 

> 

> --

> 

> > > > and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back 

into 

> 

> the

> 

> > > > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its 

> 

> mass-

> 

> > > > energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite 

> 

> zero-

> 

> > > > (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while 

still

> 

> > > > containing all the information as holographic wave 

interference

> 

> > > > patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature 

is 

> 

> like

> 

> > > a

> 

> > > > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE

> 

> > > thing...

> 

> > > > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and circumference

> 

> > > nowhere".

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic

> 

> > > > "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially 

> 

> conscious

> 

> > > > black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose 

still

> 

> > > > center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)

> 

> > > > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... Ready 

to

> 

> > > wake

> 

> > > > up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all

> 

> > > reappear

> 

> > > > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher 

plane, 

> 

> and

> 

> > > > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-) See:

> 

> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/evolution2. gif

> 

> > > > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis

> 

> > > > analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all 

the

> 

> > > > galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through our 

> 

> solar

> 

> > > > system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical

> 

> > > standing

> 

> > > > waves) of light. See:

> 

> > > > (head on cross section of a single spherically polarized 

photon)

> 

> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/PhotonField. gif

> 

> > > > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)

> 

> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/Chakrafield- spherical-

> 

> col_3.jpg

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about 

light:

> 

> > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=FjHJ7FmV0M4

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity,

> 

> > > Feynman's

> 

> > > > quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram' s' holographic 

paradigm,

> 

> > > Kaluza-

> 

> > > > Klien-Greene- Witten-Kaku' s string and membrane physics --

> 

> > > certainly

> 

> > > > is "scientific" ... And, all of it totally consistent with 

the 

> 

> ABC

> 

> > > > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the 

Book 

> 

> of

> 

> > > > Dzyan, as explained by HPB.

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits

> 

> > > > speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new 

universes

> 

> > > > (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, animals,

> 

> > > humans,

> 

> > > > etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like 

spray 

> 

> in

> 

> > > an

> 

> > > > ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The microcosm(s) 

> 

> (is/

> 

> > > > are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient 

> 

> philosopher/

> 

> > > > scientist pundits say;-).

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite 

form, 

> 

> or

> 

> > > > particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger 

> 

> holograms

> 

> > > --

> 

> > > > ad infinitum. And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers say.

> 

> > > "All

> 

> > > > is Maya" or illusion. (But, this cannot be "scientific, " even

> 

> > > though

> 

> > > > actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the

> 

> > > physical/

> 

> > > > material or measurable universe). So, what we need is a new

> 

> > > > scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical 

> 

> science"

> 

> > > or

> 

> > > > "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > Best wishes,

> 

> > > > Leon Maurer

> 

> > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13 (NEW)

> 

> > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > > Hi Leon

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 years 

> 

> ago.

> 

> > > > > Still the problem remains - from where the previous 

universe 

> 

> - I

> 

> > > > > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-scientific

> 

> > > > > concept. Did HPB mention anything about conditions during

> 

> > > Pralaya?

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Cass

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > ps Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees 

with

> 

> > > > > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings 

(rather

> 

> > > than

> 

> > > > > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in 

our 3

> 

> > > > > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others. They 

are

> 

> > > > > more or less stating that Quantum Mechanics explains 

gravity 

> 

> at

> 

> > > the

> 

> > > > > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with 

> 

> Relativity

> 

> > > (at

> 

> > > > > the largest) and Hawkings Black Hole Theory

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what they 

> 

> call

> 

> > > > > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was broken 

> 

> and

> 

> > > are

> 

> > > > > now toying with the idea of universes not unlike particles, 

> 

> just

> 

> > > > > popping in and out of existence! And this from the greatest

> 

> > > minds

> 

> > > > > of modern science.

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Cass

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> 

> > > > > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ >

> 

> > > > > To: jcs-online Study forum <jcs-online@ yahoogro ups.com<jcs-

> 

> online%40yahoogroup s.com>

> 

> > > >

> 

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM

> 

> > > > > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big 

bang?

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg200268 61.500-did- 

> 

> our-

> 

> > > cosmos-

> 

> > > > > exist-before- the-big-bang. html?DCMP= NLC-nletter&

> 

> > > > > nsref=mg20026861 .500

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > http://tinyurl. com/5tkvfb

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic field

> 

> > > model of

> 

> > > > > periodic cosmogenesis is correct.

> 

> > > > >

> 

> > > > > Leon Maurer

> 

> > > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13

> 

> > > > > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to

> 

> > > directly

> 

> > > > > compare theories and models of consciousness and its

> 

> > > interconnections

> 

> > > > > with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.. If you agree 

> 

> with

> 

> > > the

> 

> > > > > ABC theory of cosmogenesis -- postulating consciousness as 

an 

> 

> a

> 

> > > > > priori quality of ubiquitous absolute space (or any other

> 

> > > reasonable

> 

> > > > > theory) please feel free to sign on to add your support or, 

> 

> if you

> 

> > > > > have anything to add or contribute to the topic, or wish to 

> 

> post

> 

> > > your

> 

> > > > > own theory, open a new sub-camp or camp statement."

> 

> > > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/

> 

> > > > >

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> > -- 

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> > If you have not yet found that something, which at times, you 

know 

> 

> is

> 

> > missing within you and your life... it is only because 'No One' 

is 

> 

> telling

> 

> > you the truth about 'You'!

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