Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00250)

Yes, it is what I said.
But I have a freeze full and never ends its fresh assortment and 
gives the late desires satisfaction.I don't need to eat "the light on 
the path"
:-)
Christina



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
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> Lol Christina,
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> Supermarkets are the place to use your brains else you get screwed 
on your money,,,
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> --- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemaker 
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
> From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...>
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 5:53 PM
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>             Hi Gregg,
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> Welcome to the club.
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> How do I see who I am.
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> From very young my mother asked me and I said, that I am a part of 
a 
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> whole, ... whomb you can call it.
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> Of course, human,etherical, psychological and physical  in nature.
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> Not a being who has been before.
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> While later I have had visions in consciousness( awaking state) 
about 
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> some life before.Have to do with Isis, litary in Philae temple.
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> My brain don't manage me. I am far above that.And it works most of 
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> the time.Only in supermarket I lost my brain. And money hahah!!!
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> Why you want to know? Have some resemblances?
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> Interested Christina.
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "F Gregg Meagher" 
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> <f.gregg.meagher@ ...> wrote:
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> > Hi Christina!
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> > How do you see 'You' to be?
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> > Human and Physical in nature?
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> > Or a 'Being' who has been, let's say dressed into a 'body' 
suitable 
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> for a
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> > journey into the physical experience?
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> > Does your 'brain' manage you?
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> > Or, is it a control room with an elaborated sensor system ... for 
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> you to
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> > manage within the physical state of existence?
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> > In brief, for 'you' > Who are you?
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> > Thanks for your time in reading the above.
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> > Gregg
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> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:31 PM, christinaleestemake r <
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> > christinaleestemake r@...> wrote:
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> > >   Dear All,
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> > > If I have read all written about this subject I came to this:
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> > > There is only one absolute reality which put out its 
manifestation
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> > > only through the pralaya state into worlds and different times 
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> and in
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> > > different ways.All the same in multidimensional vibrations.
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> > > So if we see on earth dark, everywere else it could be light or
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> > > lighter, because it is light.Only question is why we see dark 
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> depends
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> > > on the material influenze from this earth.Elsewere under 
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> influenze of
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> > > astral,ether or subether makes only there other fews of the same
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> > > output.
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> > >
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> > > How to make it difficult; Christina
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> > >
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> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. 
com>, 
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> Leon
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> > > Maurer <leonmaurer@ > wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > Hi Cass,
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> > > >
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> > > > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier 
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> toward
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> > > > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future. (Perhaps 
this
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> > > is
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> > > > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been telling 
us
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> > > is
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> > > > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
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> > > >
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> > > > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be 
demonstrated
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> > > as
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> > > > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt. Already research is being
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> > > planned
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> > > > that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience it, 
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> that
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> > > > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is 
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> already
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> > > in
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> > > > our higher mind... Pretty much the way HPB described it (if 
you
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> > > can
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> > > > read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" 
and
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> > > cut
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> > > > through all the "blinds").
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> > > >
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> > > > As for the previous universe and pralaya...
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> > > >
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> > > > All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to 
expand 
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> --
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> > > > and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back 
into 
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> the
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> > > > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its 
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> mass-
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> > > > energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite 
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> zero-
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> > > > (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while 
still
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> > > > containing all the information as holographic wave 
interference
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> > > > patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature 
is 
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> like
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> > > a
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> > > > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE
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> > > thing...
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> > > > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and circumference
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> > > nowhere".
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> > > >
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> > > > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic
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> > > > "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially 
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> conscious
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> > > > black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose 
still
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> > > > center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)
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> > > > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... Ready 
to
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> > > wake
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> > > > up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all
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> > > reappear
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> > > > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher 
plane, 
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> and
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> > > > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-) See:
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> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/evolution2. gif
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> > > > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis
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> > > > analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all 
the
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> > > > galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through our 
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> solar
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> > > > system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical
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> > > standing
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> > > > waves) of light. See:
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> > > > (head on cross section of a single spherically polarized 
photon)
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> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/PhotonField. gif
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> > > > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
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> > > > http://www.leonmaur er.info/ABCimage s/Chakrafield- spherical-
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> col_3.jpg
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> > > >
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> > > > For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about 
light:
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> > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=FjHJ7FmV0M4
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> > > >
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> > > > All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity,
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> > > Feynman's
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> > > > quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram' s' holographic 
paradigm,
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> > > Kaluza-
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> > > > Klien-Greene- Witten-Kaku' s string and membrane physics --
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> > > certainly
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> > > > is "scientific" ... And, all of it totally consistent with 
the 
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> ABC
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> > > > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the 
Book 
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> of
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> > > > Dzyan, as explained by HPB.
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> > > >
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> > > > Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits
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> > > > speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new 
universes
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> > > > (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, animals,
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> > > humans,
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> > > > etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like 
spray 
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> in
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> > > an
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> > > > ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The microcosm(s) 
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> (is/
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> > > > are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient 
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> philosopher/
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> > > > scientist pundits say;-).
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> > > >
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> > > > So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite 
form, 
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> or
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> > > > particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger 
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> holograms
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> > > --
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> > > > ad infinitum. And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers say.
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> > > "All
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> > > > is Maya" or illusion. (But, this cannot be "scientific, " even
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> > > though
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> > > > actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the
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> > > physical/
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> > > > material or measurable universe). So, what we need is a new
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> > > > scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical 
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> science"
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> > > or
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> > > > "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)
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> > > >
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> > > > Best wishes,
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> > > > Leon Maurer
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> > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13 (NEW)
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> > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > > Hi Leon
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 years 
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> ago.
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> > > > > Still the problem remains - from where the previous 
universe 
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> - I
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> > > > > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-scientific
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> > > > > concept. Did HPB mention anything about conditions during
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> > > Pralaya?
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Cass
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> > > > >
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> > > > > ps Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees 
with
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> > > > > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings 
(rather
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> > > than
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> > > > > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in 
our 3
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> > > > > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others. They 
are
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> > > > > more or less stating that Quantum Mechanics explains 
gravity 
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> at
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> > > the
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> > > > > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with 
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> Relativity
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> > > (at
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> > > > > the largest) and Hawkings Black Hole Theory
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> > > > >
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> > > > > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what they 
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> call
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> > > > > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was broken 
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> and
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> > > are
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> > > > > now toying with the idea of universes not unlike particles, 
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> just
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> > > > > popping in and out of existence! And this from the greatest
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> > > minds
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> > > > > of modern science.
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Cass
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> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
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> > > > > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ >
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> > > > > To: jcs-online Study forum <jcs-online@yahoogro ups.com<jcs-
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> online%40yahoogroup s.com>
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> > > >
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> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM
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> > > > > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big 
bang?
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
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> > > > > http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg200268 61.500-did- 
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> > > cosmos-
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> > > > > exist-before- the-big-bang. html?DCMP= NLC-nletter&
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> > > > > nsref=mg20026861 .500
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> > > > >
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> > > > > http://tinyurl. com/5tkvfb
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic field
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> > > model of
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> > > > > periodic cosmogenesis is correct.
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Leon Maurer
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> > > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13
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> > > > > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to
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> > > directly
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> > > > > compare theories and models of consciousness and its
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> > > interconnections
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> > > > > with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.. If you agree 
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> > > the
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> > > > > ABC theory of cosmogenesis -- postulating consciousness as 
an 
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> a
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> > > > > priori quality of ubiquitous absolute space (or any other
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> > > reasonable
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> > > > > theory) please feel free to sign on to add your support or, 
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> if you
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> > > > > have anything to add or contribute to the topic, or wish to 
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> post
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> > > your
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> > > > > own theory, open a new sub-camp or camp statement."
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> > > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/
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> > If you have not yet found that something, which at times, you 
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> > missing within you and your life... it is only because 'No One' 
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> > you the truth about 'You'!
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