Re: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
Dec 17, 2008 04:12 PM
by Martin
Haha, isn't that the book on spiritual diet, which you will first deny and destroy all that you desire including life and then afterwards stand up from death and desire and long for all to return? What a waste of energy.......
Darn, it reminds me of me being in Nirvana and at the same time here in Hell explaining some1 there that the Twi-light in everything is the Middle Way between extremes. Since then I am at peace even in the busiest parts of Amsterdam.
--- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com>
Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 8:57 PM
No calories at all.Only needs great understanding and overthinking
which cost a lot of calories( energy) for some ones.
Light on the path by mabel collins.
--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:
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> The Path light, hmm sounds good, is that low calories?
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> From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@...>
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 6:23 PM
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:
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> > --- On Wed, 12/17/08, christinaleestemake r
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> > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@>
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> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
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> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 5:53 PM
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> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "F Gregg Meagher"
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> > > > How to make it difficult; Christina
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> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%
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> > > > Maurer <leonmaurer@ > wrote:
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> > > > > Hi Cass,
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> > > > > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier
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> > > > > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future. (Perhaps
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> > > > > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been
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> > > > > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
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> > > > > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be
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> > > > > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt. Already research is being
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> > > > > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is
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> > > > > our higher mind... Pretty much the way HPB described it (if
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> > > > > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its
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> > > > > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE
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> > > > > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and
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> > > > > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic
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> > > > > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter...
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> > > > > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher
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> > > > > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-)
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> > > > > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis
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> > > > > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
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> > > > > Klien-Greene- Witten-Kaku' s string and membrane physics --
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> > > > > is "scientific" ... And, all of it totally consistent with
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> > > > > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the
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> > > > > Best wishes,
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> > > > > Leon Maurer
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> > > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13 (NEW)
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> > > > > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100
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