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Re: Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?

Dec 16, 2008 01:48 AM
by christinaleestemaker


Just read and see.

Christina





-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Semock" <semockr@...> 
wrote:
>
> What he said!
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cass,
> > 
> > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier 
toward  
> > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future.  (Perhaps this 
> is  
> > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been telling us 
> is  
> > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
> > 
> > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be demonstrated 
> as  
> > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Already research is being 
> planned  
> > that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience it, 
that  
> > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is already 
> in  
> > our higher mind...  Pretty much the way HPB described it (if you 
> can  
> > read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" and 
> cut  
> > through all the "blinds").
> > 
> > As for the previous universe and pralaya...
> > 
> > All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to expand 
--  
> > and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back into 
the  
> > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its mass- 
> > energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite zero- 
> > (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while still  
> > containing all the information as holographic wave interference  
> > patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature is 
like 
> a  
> > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE 
> thing...  
> > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and circumference 
> nowhere".
> > 
> > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic  
> > "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially 
conscious  
> > black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose still  
> > center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)  
> > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... Ready to 
> wake  
> > up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all 
> reappear  
> > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher plane, 
and  
> > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-)  See:
> > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/evolution2.gif
> > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis  
> > analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all the  
> > galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through our 
solar  
> > system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical 
> standing  
> > waves) of light. See:
> > (head on cross section of a single spherically polarized photon)
> > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/PhotonField.gif
> > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
> > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Chakrafield-spherical-
col_3.jpg
> > 
> > For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about light:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjHJ7FmV0M4
> > 
> > All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity, 
> Feynman's  
> > quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram's' holographic paradigm, 
> Kaluza- 
> > Klien-Greene-Witten-Kaku's string and membrane physics -- 
> certainly  
> > is "scientific"... And, all of it totally consistent with the 
ABC  
> > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the Book 
of  
> > Dzyan, as explained by HPB.
> > 
> > Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits  
> > speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new universes  
> > (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, animals, 
> humans,  
> > etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like spray in 
> an  
> > ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The  microcosm(s) 
(is/ 
> > are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient philosopher/ 
> > scientist pundits say;-).
> > 
> > So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite form, 
or  
> > particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger 
holograms -
> -  
> > ad infinitum.  And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers 
> say. "All  
> > is Maya" or illusion.  (But, this cannot be "scientific," even 
> though  
> > actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the 
> physical/ 
> > material or measurable universe).  So, what we need is a new  
> > scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical 
science" 
> or  
> > "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Leon Maurer
> > http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/23/13 (NEW)
> > http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Leon
> > >
> > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 years 
ago.   
> > > Still the problem remains - from where the previous universe - 
I  
> > > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-scientific  
> > > concept.  Did HPB mention anything about conditions during 
> Pralaya?
> > >
> > > Cass
> > >
> > > ps  Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees with  
> > > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings (rather 
> than  
> > > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in our 3  
> > > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others.  They 
are  
> > > more or less stating that Quantum Mechanics explains gravity at 
> the  
> > > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with Relativity 
> (at  
> > > the largest) and Hawkings Black Hole Theory
> > >
> > > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what they 
call  
> > > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was broken and 
> are  
> > > now toying with the idea of universes not unlike particles, 
just  
> > > popping in and out of existence!   And this from the greatest 
> minds  
> > > of modern science.
> > >
> > > Cass
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@>
> > > To: jcs-online Study forum <jcs-online@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> > >
> > >
> > > Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> > >
> > > http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg200268 61.500-did- our-
> cosmos-
> > > exist-before- the-big-bang. html?DCMP= NLC-nletter&  
> > > nsref=mg20026861 .500
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl. com/5tkvfb
> > >
> > > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic field 
> model of
> > > periodic cosmogenesis is correct.
> > >
> > > Leon Maurer
> > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13
> > > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to 
> directly
> > > compare theories and models of consciousness and its 
> interconnections
> > > with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.. If you agree with 
> the
> > > ABC theory of cosmogenesis -- postulating consciousness as an a
> > > priori quality of ubiquitous absolute space (or any other 
> reasonable
> > > theory) please feel free to sign on to add your support or, if 
you
> > > have anything to add or contribute to the topic, or wish to 
post 
> your
> > > own theory, open a new sub-camp or camp statement."
> > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





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