Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00091)

Well, no point in going there now.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 12/6/2008 2:06:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Amsterdam to cut brothels by half:

_http://news.http://newhttp://news.http://news_ 
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7769199.stm) 

Well,  finally some spiritual work has been picked up by my fellow citizens, 
the sale  of mushrooms has been forbidden already and coffeeshops are not 
allowed  anymore near schools. The goal is of course to get rid of all Sodom and  
Gomorrah practises including drinkabuse, sexual distortion and a place for the 
 homeless: the red light district without dugpa's!...read more on some of my  
plans with others at www.uwpf.org (work in progress).
Tantra, drugs and  alcohol belong where they have always belonged: at the 
shelf of people who  know how to deal with it...

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Martin <_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ 
(mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) >  wrote:
From: Martin <_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) >
Subject:  Re: Theos-World Adyar Diary
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Date:  Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:52 PM

Keep it closer to home, you guys  had a bishop called Leadheater or was it 
Leadbeater?

The Gold HPB  carried in her heart has never been disturbed one jota and yes 
people like to  throw stones at eachother before looking into their own ruined 
 temples...

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Morten Nymann Olesen  <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> 
wrote:

From: Morten Nymann  Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>

Subject: Re: Theos-World  Adyar Diary

To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Saturday,  December 6, 2008, 7:40 PM

But a Brothel - inferior Tantric  practices?

No way!

And Saints are only found in Christian  religious groups.

Well, those religious Saints of yours are ordinarily  the worst in respect to 
Brothels and other activities of a more sinister kind  are they not? (Do'nt 
do as I do, but do as I say...etc. etc.)

For  instance, just try to think about certain Roman Catholic branches or  
offshoots.

And you keep on abusing and vilifying the good old Ladys  name.

I wonder what theosophical tribe you belong to?

M.  Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Drpsionic@aol. com  

To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 

Sent: Saturday, December 06,  2008 5:13 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Diary

I am being  real!

Remember, Blavatsky was no plaster saint. That is why she turned  out to be 

as great as she was.

Chuck the Heretic

In a  message dated 12/6/2008 2:37:00 A.M. Central Standard Time,  

global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk writes:

Get  real!

Baseless rumors.

Are you by the use of som kind of  compassionate visdom seeking to degrade H. 

P. Blavatsky?

- -  -

Yes, yes...marriage is a hard thing.

NASRUDIN IN  HEAVEN

Mulla Nasrudin was coming to after a serious operation. He was  just 

conscious enough to feel the softness of the comfortable bed and  the warmth 
of gentle 

hands on his forehead. "Where am I?" he asked.  "In Heaven?" "NO," said his 

wife, "I AM STILL RIGHT HERE WITH YOU."  

NASRUDIN SEEKING PEACE:

Mulla Nasrudin and one of his friends  were thinking one day to join the 

army. "What makes you think to join  the army?" asked the Mulla. "Well, I 
don't 

have a wife and I love  war," said the friend. "And why you are thinking to 
join 

it?" "ME?"  said Nasrudin. "I HAVE A WIFE AND I LOVE PEACE." 

M.  Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 

From: _Drpsionic@aol.  Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@ aol. com) 

To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- talk@yahoogro ups.com) 

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008  11:35 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Diary

Uh, she might have  at one time. after all, she did work as bareback rider 

in a  circus...

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 12/5/2008  10:40:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, 

_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_  (mailto:global- theosophy@ stofanet. dk) 
writes:

I know it was meant as  a joke.

But, H. P. Blavatsky is not running a brothel!

Please  rethink that one.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message -----  

From: __Drpsionic@ aol._Dr_ (mailto:_Drpsionic@ aol. Drp) _  

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To: _theos-talk@ To: _theosTo: _th_theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  

(mailto:theos- talk@yahoogro ups.com) ) 

Sent: Friday, December  05, 2008 5:24 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Diary

Running  the brothel keeps them too busy too cook.

Chuck the Heretic

In a  message dated 12/5/2008 10:08:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,  

_global-theosophy@ _global-theosoph y@<WB_global- theosophy@  global-thgl_ 

(mailto:global- theosophy@ stofanet. dk) )  writes:

I wonder where all the female Mahatmas went?

M.  Sufilight

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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:49  PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Diary

When has a Mahatma fed  anything but himself?

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated  12/4/2008 10:13:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, 

__Mvandertak@  __Mvandertak@ <WBR>___Mvandert ak@_Mvandert_ 

(mailto:_Mvandertak  @ yahoo.Mva) ) _ 

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(mailto:_Mvandertak @ yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@  yahoo. com) ) ) writes:

He probably would have turned them into 4 or  5000 and feed the masses...

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Subject: Re: Theos-World  Adyar Diary

To: _theos-talk@ To: _theos-talk@ <WBR<WBR> To:  _theoTo: _theos-To: 

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Date: Thursday,  December 4, 2008, 4:32 PM

For some reason a scorpion hiding in the  midst of Adyar is an interesting 

metaphor, considering some of the  stuff going on lately.

And yet, how wonderful it would have been if,  while the Mahachohan had been 

filling the skies of the ashram with hot  air, a large, cream pie had 

miraculously appeared and hit him in the  face. I have a feeling that that 

one thing 

would have been the  most salutary and instructive incident that could have 

happened in  Theosophy.

And it would have been very funny to see as  well.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 12/4/2008 5:57:22  A.M. Central Standard Time, 

prmoliveira@ yahoo.com writes:

When  the plane landed at Chennai last Friday, Mumbai was still under 

a  terrorist siege. The terrorists struck at the very touristic heart 

of  that city, near the famous Gateway of India. On Saturday morning, 

when  commandos of the National Security Guard finally cleared the 

last  hotel in which hostages were being kept, the total death toll 

was over  170, with more than 300 people injured. There was widespread 

shock and  disbelief in India. But India always recovers from such 

events.  

Students from Slovenia, Finland, Canada, Australia, Hungary and India  

are attending classes at the School of the Wisdom. The theme is "The  

Mahatmas on Theosophy and the TS". There is half an hour of silent  

meditation before the morning talk begins.

The different  departments at Adyar are gearing up for the Convention 

at the end of  the month. There were strong rains and winds in the 

last fortnight and  some trees were uprooted. 

I met the President briefly the day after my  arrival. She was 

preparing to go to a meeting at the Government House  (Rashtrapati 

Bhavan). She was invited by the Governor of Arunachal  Pradesh to give 

a speech during a book launch. She goes to the office  both in the 

mornings and afternoons. 

The quiet and natural  beauty at Adyar are refreshing. In one evening 

I decided to go for a  walk after dinner and took with me a small 

torch. Near the coconut  grove I met one of the many natural residents 

at Adyar: a black  scorpion. He (or she) was the sort of creature that 

makes you pay  careful attention. We had this silent meeting and I 

then decided to  part company with the illustrious resident when I 

finally realized he  was not going anywhere!

Some of the workers I had met in 1992 are still  here and they 

apparently remember me. The TS at Adyar has given  employment to 

generations of workers coming from the impoverished  surroundings. 

Many of their children have studied in the Olcott  Memorial High 

School.

One of the passages we examined recently  at the School of the Wisdom 

was:

"Shall we devote our selves to  teaching a few Europeans fed on the 

fat of the land, many of them  loaded with the gifts of blind fortune, 

the rationale of bell ringing,  cup growing, of the spiritual 

telephone and astral body formation, and  leave the teeming millions 

of the ignorant, of the poor and despised,  the lowly and the 

oppressed, to take care of themselves and of their  hereafter the best 

they know how. Never. Rather perish the  Theosophical Society with 

both its hapless founders than that we  should permit it to become no 

better than an academy of magic and a  hall of occultism. That we, the 

devoted followers of that spirit  incarnate of absolute self 

sacrifice, of philanthropy, divine  kindness, as of all the highest 

virtues attainable on this earth of  sorrow, the man of men, Gautama 

Buddha, should ever allow the  Theosophical Society to represent the 

embodiment of selfishness, the  refuge of the few with no thought in 

them for the many, is a strange  idea, my brothers." (The Mahachohan's 

Letter)

Walking around  Adyar and its encircling neighbourhood helps us to 

understand the  words of that great Adept. There cannot be Theosophy 

without a genuine  sense of compassion towards those who are poor and  

despised.

The rains have stopped, the work continues, the crows  are everywhere 

and Adyar continues to be pervaded by a sense of  uncreated vastness 

and peace. I miss my litlle black scorpion friend.  Perhaps we shall 

meet again. He has taught me to remain mindful. And  he also goes to 

sleep in the magic quiet of Adyar nights.

Pedro  

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