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Re: Theos-World Re: Internet files, etc. versus Printed Material

Nov 26, 2008 01:39 PM
by Augoeides-222


mkr,
   Many of these new digital online resources and product sites have a "Hit Counter" usually at the bottom of the page. Some show hundreds of thousands of viewers that came and read some or all of the website. This is vastly superior to printing the same number of physical issues and circulating them to readers and the cost savings are immense.
Regards,
John 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> 
I just saw a news report that Atlantic Records announced that its digital
distribution is over 50% of the total sales. The key word of one of the
heads of music producers is that they are trading digital pennies for analog
dollars. Many of them have drastically cutback the marketing and promotional
expenses.

The move to digital media is going to affect TPH and I do not know if those
responsible are still asleep at the wheel just like TS not moving quickly to
make better use of modern technology. I personally know of one well known
theosophist leader refusing to use email for official correspondence 10
years ago when all of us were using email for correspondence. Of course this
individual was using the resources of the organization to print and mail
correspondence perhaps was using email for the all other behind the scenes
maneuverings and politickings.

I hope and pray that TS wakes up before the Juggernaut runs over.

mkr

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM, <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

> The reality is that copyright is virtually dead. It is almost impossible
> to
> effectively enforce and thus those of us who could previously depend on it
> have to find work-arounds to maintain an income.
>
> Chuck the Heretic
>
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2008 6:59:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com> writes:
>
> The question of compensating the author in the issue of print vs on-line is
> a real one and there should be a long-term solution to it.
>
> The parallel I can see is the issue of free vs commercial software. There
> are many very useful and powerful "freeware" computer users use everyday.
> Some of them suggest that if the user feels the software is useful to them,
> then the users are encouraged to donate whatever they can.
>
> In some cases, it has been very successful and the authors continue to
> enhance their software for better productivity. In other cases, whole suite
> of programs are supported and enhanced by users who have skills.
>
> The current laws covering copyright and other protection for printed or
> electronically stored material still does not guarantee that the author is
> not cheated by the user by not paying for it.
>
> We will have to wait and see how the financial support issue gets resolved
> in the future..
>
> MKR
>
> THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, danielhcaldwell
> <_danielhcaldwell@danielhca_ (mailto:danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com<danielhcaldwell%40yahoo.com>)
> >wrote:
>
> > Theo,
> >
> > I hope all Theos-Talk readers will read and re-read your post below.
> >
> > It is all true.
> >
> > Someone pays a price!!!
> >
> > A researcher/writer/ A researcher/writer/<WBR>author --
> > writer/researcher or an academic/scholar --- has to make a
> > living...that is, pay for food, a place to stay, etc. etc. just like
> > everybody else!!
> >
> > So while it is good that there is FREE material on the Internet,
> > someone has to pay for it, ie. pay for the research and the writing
> > of it, and the cost of publication either in printed form or on the
> > web.
> >
> > Take my own research on Madame Blavatsky... Take my own research
> > the sheer love of it. Never intended to make money off of it. But
> > it took money to do all the research I did. Every article in my
> > Blavatsky Archives cost money. For example, one article was so rare
> > that it took me 20 years to track it down. I finally discovered it
> > in the British Library but only after I had to pay for lots of
> > microfilm, etc. So that one article probably cost me hundreds of
> > dollars to obtain. Of course then it had to be converted into a
> > webpage format -- either typed or scanned, etc. etc. That's going to
> > cost money to! Now anyone in the world can read the article for
> > free....
> >
> > Other researchers, authors, scholars, etc. do similar things and
> > incur all sorts of expenses.... incur all sorts of expe
> >
> > Oftentime people forget all of this or never even considered it.
> >
> > Daniel
> > _http://hpb.cc_ (http://hpb.cc/)
> >
> > --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>)
>
> <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>, Theo
> > Paijmans <th.paijmans@th.>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As a published author, here's the downside on all this freeloading.
> > > Research into arcane and esoteric topics, often of very high
> > > scholarship, mostly comes from outside academia. Meaning: authors
> > and
> > > researchers who pay for the expenses, time and effort of their
> > > endeavours themselves, instead of relying on grants, funds and
> > stipends
> > > to cover the costs.
> > >
> > > Have you any idea just how much research costs in these so-called
> > > 'enlightened times'? From personal experience I know that precisely
> > > those files or documents that we search, are not always
> > automatically
> > > stored in the right and easily accessible archives. It costs time,
> > and
> > > money too, to trace and access these important historical source
> > materials.
> > >
> > > Then one writes a paper or a book. It may take years, years of hard
> > > labour, of study and contemplation, with little monetary award. So
> > one
> > > gradually lives in ever more sober circumstances, almost like a
> > monk.
> > > Clothes, food, commodities as tv and radio, mobile phones, these
> > are
> > > commodities on which is saved.
> > >
> > > Then the day arrives. The book is published. The writer has poured
> > his
> > > or her heart into it. Every droplet of sweat and every ounce of
> > toil.
> > > The writer sits back and awaits the response. At least, the
> > courtesy of
> > > people actually buying the book because the writer hopes that they
> > are
> > > as interested in and passionate about the subject as he or she is.
> > >
> > > And while they did not write the book themselves, the writer did it
> > for
> > > them, and they in return support the writer. I know of many
> > excellent
> > > researchers who have quit for that reason. And the above is what
> > they
> > > told me as being the reason. Again, as a published author, I have
> > > sympathy for their feelings.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > > Augoeides-222@ Augoeides
> > >
> > > > Daniel,
> > > > I totally agree the web is a virtual limitless cornucopia of
> > knowledge
> > > > that continues to amaze me!!! Google "Books" is another amazing
> > > > resource. One can use it two ways. The first you use the website
> > of
> > > > Google Books and can perform searches by Author Name, Title or
> > Topic.
> > > > The second wonderful way is on Google Earth which one can
> > activate by:
> > > > 1. Initializing Google Earth
> > > > 2. Clicking on "Gallery" in the "Layers" section on the left
> > sidebar
> > > > 3. Scroll down the drop down Gallery contents menu and
> > locate "Google
> > > > Book Search"
> > > > 4. Place a check mark in the empty box
> > > >
> > > > Now whenever to zoom in close on Google Earth little gold Book
> > Icons
> > > > will be seen, place your cursor on an icon and the Title will
> > appear,
> > > > there is also a "more" option and a link to the PDF file. Many of
> > the
> > > > books are rare historic works that appear over the nation they
> > speak
> > > > of. many are free to download as shown by "Download" at the top
> > right
> > > > corner of the page for the Book.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John
> > > >
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