Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00500)

On 11/26/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hi friends,
>
> Copyright actually protects publisher's rights or interests rather
> then Author-rights as we live in a society where creative work is to
> great extend abused for making profit. For instance, out of 12
> published translations my share covered work for 2-3 translations
> while publisher made few thousands euros of extra profit cleverly
> violating the contract. When I went on self-publishing e-books guess
> what happened, out of nearly 2000 copies of one title downloaded only
> 1 was paid. There are some objective reasons why people here don't
> want to use online payment systems but the main reason is still that
> they want things which are online for free.
>


MKR: I think that the market on Internet is yet to mature. In the software
area, things seem to be improving with the users donating money for the
developer.








>   On the other hand I probably could never present my work and
> theosophy if there would not be internet as maintaining the web site
> costs only about 100 dollars a year. All hours of work are paid only
> by readers' attention. If four years ago you typed in the Google
> search word "teozofija" you got about 150 returns, now you get nearly
> 18,500 of them. They certainly can not be all contributed to the
> presence of my website but it for sure made some difference.
>


MKR: You may want to have a counter so the hits can be monitored and
visitors can see. Now that you have a presence in the Internet, do not be
surprised if the hits start exponentially growing. Have you considered
putting your website as a reference in the wiki on theosophy and TS?







>   Theosophical organizations could have done a lot to support scanning,
> translation and self-publication but till now they didn't show much
> or any interest; they actually only made things harder. When years
> ago I refused to be "initiated" in a privileged group I was told that
> I will finish as a beggar. It seems therefore that search and work
> for truth goes along with poverty, but one really can not do much
> when there is such inner urge present.
>


MKR:  For years I have been shouting at the top of my cyber voice, what a
great opportunity that Internet has provided to TS to reach its members and
potential members and world at large. No one at the top seems to be
interested.

A simple example is this list. I have seen only two GS's participating in
this list in the last 10 years. We should keep in mind the elected leaders
are all old; really old; couple of generations ahead of many here. They have
no clue to the potential of Internet -- at least from what we have seen in
cyberspace. In addition, they all grew up in a cocoon and do not have any
clue to deal with the free-for-all Internet that no one can control. What
they seem to forget is that in the next some years all of them would be dead
and gone. Internet is going to be here. Younger generation which grew up in
Internet culture are going to take over. They will demand that information
and communication be made available on the Internet. Even now, I know some
professionals will not work for an organization which does not provide
Internet access for day to day work. We all just need to imagine what if HPB
were here today and what she would do with the free access to Internet. She
would be engaging everyone on the varied topics of interest to theosophists
and theosophy.

At least Internet has done one thing. It is a saviour of TS.

But for it, we all would have been under the mistaken view that Radha
Burnier is very sick mentally and physically and she would have been
defeated. In days of old with the leaders controlling the media of
communication, misinformation would have effectively mislead all of us.

We also would have been in total darkness about the secret proposed speedy
disenfranchisement by a clique and woken up one day after the takeover by
the clique and a puppet President.  Thank God. With the help of a few wise
and brave souls and Internet, the scheme was exposed and we are all
discussing it.

Let us hang in there. Better days are ahead. In the meanwhile let us be
vigilant and do the best we can.


MKR





>   Best regards,
> Anton
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Drpsionic@... wrote:
> >
> > The reality is that copyright is virtually dead. It is almost
> impossible to
> > effectively enforce and thus those of us who could previously
> depend on it
> > have to find work-arounds to maintain an income.
> >
> > Chuck the Heretic
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/25/2008 6:59:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > mkr777@... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The question of compensating the author in the issue of print vs on-
> line is
> > a real one and there should be a long-term solution to it.
> >
> > The parallel I can see is the issue of free vs commercial
> software. There
> > are many very useful and powerful "freeware" computer users use
> everyday.
> > Some of them suggest that if the user feels the software is useful
> to them,
> > then the users are encouraged to donate whatever they can.
> >
> > In some cases, it has been very successful and the authors
> continue to
> > enhance their software for better productivity. In other cases,
> whole suite
> > of programs are supported and enhanced by users who have skills.
> >
> > The current laws covering copyright and other protection for
> printed or
> > electronically stored material still does not guarantee that the
> author is
> > not cheated by the user by not paying for it.
> >
> > We will have to wait and see how the financial support issue gets
> resolved
> > in the future..
> >
> > MKR
> >
> > THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, danielhcaldwell
> > <_danielhcaldwell@danielhca_ (mailto:danielhcaldwell@...) >wrote:
> >
> > > Theo,
> > >
> > > I hope all Theos-Talk readers will read and re-read your post
> below.
> > >
> > > It is all true.
> > >
> > > Someone pays a price!!!
> > >
> > > A researcher/writer/ A researcher/writer/<WBR>author --
> > > writer/researcher or an academic/scholar --- has to make a
> > > living...that is, pay for food, a place to stay, etc. etc. just
> like
> > > everybody else!!
> > >
> > > So while it is good that there is FREE material on the Internet,
> > > someone has to pay for it, ie. pay for the research and the
> writing
> > > of it, and the cost of publication either in printed form or on
> the
> > > web.
> > >
> > > Take my own research on Madame Blavatsky... Take my own
> research
> > > the sheer love of it. Never intended to make money off of it. But
> > > it took money to do all the research I did. Every article in my
> > > Blavatsky Archives cost money. For example, one article was so
> rare
> > > that it took me 20 years to track it down. I finally discovered
> it
> > > in the British Library but only after I had to pay for lots of
> > > microfilm, etc. So that one article probably cost me hundreds of
> > > dollars to obtain. Of course then it had to be converted into a
> > > webpage format -- either typed or scanned, etc. etc. That's
> going to
> > > cost money to! Now anyone in the world can read the article for
> > > free....
> > >
> > > Other researchers, authors, scholars, etc. do similar things and
> > > incur all sorts of expenses.... incur all sorts of expe
> > >
> > > Oftentime people forget all of this or never even considered it.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > _http://hpb.cc_ (http://hpb.cc/)
> > >
> > > --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-
> talk@yahoogroups.com <talk%40yahoogroups.com>)
> > <theos-talk%theos-talk%<WBthe>, Theo
> > > Paijmans <th.paijmans@th.>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As a published author, here's the downside on all this
> freeloading.
> > > > Research into arcane and esoteric topics, often of very high
> > > > scholarship, mostly comes from outside academia. Meaning:
> authors
> > > and
> > > > researchers who pay for the expenses, time and effort of their
> > > > endeavours themselves, instead of relying on grants, funds and
> > > stipends
> > > > to cover the costs.
> > > >
> > > > Have you any idea just how much research costs in these so-
> called
> > > > 'enlightened times'? From personal experience I know that
> precisely
> > > > those files or documents that we search, are not always
> > > automatically
> > > > stored in the right and easily accessible archives. It costs
> time,
> > > and
> > > > money too, to trace and access these important historical
> source
> > > materials.
> > > >
> > > > Then one writes a paper or a book. It may take years, years of
> hard
> > > > labour, of study and contemplation, with little monetary
> award. So
> > > one
> > > > gradually lives in ever more sober circumstances, almost like a
> > > monk.
> > > > Clothes, food, commodities as tv and radio, mobile phones,
> these
> > > are
> > > > commodities on which is saved.
> > > >
> > > > Then the day arrives. The book is published. The writer has
> poured
> > > his
> > > > or her heart into it. Every droplet of sweat and every ounce of
> > > toil.
> > > > The writer sits back and awaits the response. At least, the
> > > courtesy of
> > > > people actually buying the book because the writer hopes that
> they
> > > are
> > > > as interested in and passionate about the subject as he or she
> is.
> > > >
> > > > And while they did not write the book themselves, the writer
> did it
> > > for
> > > > them, and they in return support the writer. I know of many
> > > excellent
> > > > researchers who have quit for that reason. And the above is
> what
> > > they
> > > > told me as being the reason. Again, as a published author, I
> have
> > > > sympathy for their feelings.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Theo
> > > >
> > > > Augoeides-222@ Augoeides
> > > >
> > > > > Daniel,
> > > > > I totally agree the web is a virtual limitless cornucopia of
> > > knowledge
> > > > > that continues to amaze me!!! Google "Books" is another
> amazing
> > > > > resource. One can use it two ways. The first you use the
> website
> > > of
> > > > > Google Books and can perform searches by Author Name, Title
> or
> > > Topic.
> > > > > The second wonderful way is on Google Earth which one can
> > > activate by:
> > > > > 1. Initializing Google Earth
> > > > > 2. Clicking on "Gallery" in the "Layers" section on the left
> > > sidebar
> > > > > 3. Scroll down the drop down Gallery contents menu and
> > > locate "Google
> > > > > Book Search"
> > > > > 4. Place a check mark in the empty box
> > > > >
> > > > > Now whenever to zoom in close on Google Earth little gold
> Book
> > > Icons
> > > > > will be seen, place your cursor on an icon and the Title will
> > > appear,
> > > > > there is also a "more" option and a link to the PDF file.
> Many of
> > > the
> > > > > books are rare historic works that appear over the nation
> they
> > > speak
> > > > > of. many are free to download as shown by "Download" at the
> top
> > > right
> > > > > corner of the page for the Book.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > John
> > > > >
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