Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00136)

Choke choke laugh laugh choke laugh!
 
The scare part it is that it might be true!
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 11/8/2008 6:55:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
semockr@hotmail.com writes:

 
 
 
I have heard that the Dalai Lama is dropping out of his position as  
figurehead or spokesman for a free Tibet since none of his 
initiatives  in this regard have had the slightest impact on the 
communist govt that  has Tibet in its deadly embrace.

This implys that president elect Obama  has approached him with an 
offer to join his Administration of Change as  secretary of Ancient 
Wisdom which is a new department that is being formed  in the 
executive branch. DK & KH were originally approached for the  position 
but they would only agree to precipitate an email now and then by  way 
of communication and this was not sufficient contact to satisfy the  
ex-hippies that Obama is seeding his cabinet with.

For the first  time in history then, the SD has a real chance to 
replace the Bible and to  have Theosophy occupy its rightful place as 
Law of the Land in the USA.  After this has taken place, the other 
countrys will fall in line and  Theosophy will experience a resurgence 
that will beggar description of any  previous coup. 

--- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) ,  
MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Well said.
> 
>  "Proof of the pudding is in the eating."
> 
> Looking at the  membership trend over the last 20 years world-wide 
outside of
>  India, there is a continuing steep decline. It continues every  
minute.
> 
> The structure of TS was deliberately setup by the  wise ones with 
total
> autonomy at lodge and section levels. So the  buck stops at the 
sections.
> 
> To address any problem, first  correct problem has to be identified. 
Then
> solutions can be  found.
> 
> Today's critical problem of TS is steep decline in  membership in all
> sections outside India. This is obvious. None of the  "leaders" 
even wants
> to talk about it, because much of the decline  took place in their 
watch and
> they have no explanation.
>  
> Meddling with International Rules is not going to do anything to  
address the
> membership growth, because TS is not a spiritual  organization held 
together
> by blind followers with blind faith and  blind beliefs.
> 
> It is all about a handful of GC members trying  to do away with 
members'
> rights and seize power. That would give  access to all the assets 
which they
> can spend as they want. In  addition, they can put their Puppet as 
the
> President with wings  clipped. Losers will be members, TS and 
theosophy.
> 
> And it  would destroy TS in our life time, as members leave.
> 
> That is  where we are today.
> 
> MKR
> 
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008  at 6:05 AM, Duane Carpenter 
<monad_monad_monad_mon
> >  wrote:
> 
> > All membership comes from inspiration. All  inspiration comes from
> > enlightened leadership. It often takes  great luminaries like HPB 
to light a
> > fire in those around  them. If the structure of the Theosophical
> > Society keeps out  purposely or by default those of advanced 
spiritual
> >  development they will never attract new members. If new and  
enlightened
> > leadership do not come into an organization or  institution to 
give it
> > continue renewal and spiritual life  that institution will die a 
slow
> > agonizing death from  bureaucratic minutiae and organizational 
suffocation.
> > This is  why some advocate revolution. If you cannot reform and 
change the
>  > old structures you either create new ones in there place or get 
out  of the
> > way and let those more responsive to the new Aquarian  impulses do 
there
> > work.
> >
> >
>  > DC
> >
> >
> >  ____________  ____  ____ 
> > From: MKR  <mkr777@...>
> > To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>  > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:46:43 AM
> > Subject: Re:  Theos-World Re:TS - Are we ready for a coup?
> >
> > From an  ordinary intelligent person's view, as I have mentioned 
several
>  > time
> > previously, the most urgent real issue facing the TS is  NOT 
changing the
> > rules.
> >
> > It is the  rapid and continuing decline in the number of members 
in all the
>  > sections outside India.
> >
> > TS was setup as fully  autonomous at lodge and section levels. So 
the
> >  problem
> > is the problem of section leaders and hard work of the  members in 
the
> > section. Any amount of meddling with the rules  is going to do 
nothing to
> > address the problem. The only thing  that will do to by tweaking 
and
> > meddling
> > with  the rules is for the GC members to disenfranchise the 
members and
>  > seize
> > the control of the presidency and thus effectively  making the 
president a
> > puppet in the hands of a few GC  members.
> >
> > Once this happens, in our life time we will  see the end of TS 
because we
> > are
> > not like other  spiritual organizations whose basis is blind faith 
and blind
> >  beliefs.
> >
> > Has anyone seen any GC member ever mention  the membership decline 
issue? It
> > is a very sorry state of  affairs.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> >
>  >
> > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Anton Rozman  <anton_rozman@ant>
> > wrote:
> >
> >  > Dear friends,
> > >
> > > What is the main  interest of the Theosophical Society as an
> > > international  institution or common interest of all members of 
the
> > >  Theosophical Society?
> > >
> > > In first place, to  neutralize all partial interests of 
individual
> > > members  or groups of members which identify themselves with 
those of
> >  > the Theosophical Society and in that way to be able to realize  
its
> > > objects on the basis of its constitutional platform.  In present
> > > situation common interest is wholly absent and  crippled.
> > >
> > > The scissors and linen to  overcome it are wholly in the hands 
of the
> > > elected  President. She, and only she, has received a mandate to 
unify
> >  > the Society under a common interest. She has the power and  
authority
> > > to do that.
> > >
> >  > It is obvious that routine proceedings aren't enough to solve  
actual
> > > problem. According to Rules and Regulations the  President has
> > > authority to: â a special meeting may be  called at any time by 
the
> > > President â the President at  his discretion may call such 
members to
> > > a meeting for  the purpose of study and discussion of any matters
> > >  concerning the Society that he considers appropriate to lay 
before
>  > > them. The meeting may then forward to the President its report  
on
> > > such matters and may make recommendations thereon.  Such meetings
> > > shall be of a consultative nature without  administrative or
> > > legislative authority, or may be of a  legislative nature upon 
the
> > > decision of the General  Council taken at least one year in 
advance.
> > > In the event  the President does not himself attend such a 
meeting he
> > >  may appoint the Vice-President or some other member of the 
General
>  > > Council to preside in his stead.
> > >
> > >  On the basis of these Regulations and with the use of internet
> >  > technology an extended discussion panel can be formed to address
>  > > important critical issues. With making such discussion panel  
public
> > > the Theosophical Society would show to its  members and public in
> > > general that it is able to overcome  divisions and find a common
> > > interest according to the  philosophy the Society is promoting.
> > >
> > > This  is, in my opinion, the only way out from the death alley 
we are
>  > > catched in.
> > >
> > > Warmest  regards,
> > > Anton
> > >
> > >
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> >
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