Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00135)

I have heard that the Dalai Lama is dropping out of his position as 
figurehead or spokesman for a free Tibet since none of his 
initiatives in this regard have had the slightest impact on the 
communist govt that has Tibet in its deadly embrace.

This implys that president elect Obama has approached him with an 
offer to join his Administration of Change as secretary of Ancient 
Wisdom which is a new department that is being formed in the 
executive branch. DK & KH were originally approached for the position 
but they would only agree to precipitate an email now and then by way 
of communication and this was not sufficient contact to satisfy the 
ex-hippies that Obama is seeding his cabinet with.

For the first time in history then, the SD has a real chance to 
replace the Bible and to have Theosophy occupy its rightful place as 
Law of the Land in the USA. After this has taken place, the other 
countrys will fall in line and Theosophy will experience a resurgence 
that will beggar description of any previous coup. 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Well said.
> 
> "Proof of the pudding is in the eating."
> 
> Looking at the membership trend over the last 20 years world-wide 
outside of
> India, there is a continuing steep decline. It continues every 
minute.
> 
> The structure of TS was deliberately setup by the wise ones with 
total
> autonomy at lodge and section levels. So the buck stops at the 
sections.
> 
> To address any problem, first correct problem has to be identified. 
Then
> solutions can be found.
> 
> Today's critical problem of TS is steep decline in membership in all
> sections outside India. This is obvious. None of the "leaders"  
even wants
> to talk about it, because much of the decline took place in their 
watch and
> they have no explanation.
> 
> Meddling with International Rules is not going to do anything to 
address the
> membership growth, because TS is not a spiritual organization held 
together
> by blind followers with blind faith and blind beliefs.
> 
> It is all about a handful of GC members trying to do away with 
members'
> rights and seize power. That would give access to all the assets 
which they
> can spend as they want. In addition, they can put their Puppet as 
the
> President with wings clipped. Losers will be members, TS and 
theosophy.
> 
> And it would destroy TS in our life time, as members leave.
> 
> That is where we are today.
> 
> MKR
> 
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Duane Carpenter 
<monad_monad_monad@...
> > wrote:
> 
> > All membership comes from inspiration. All inspiration comes from
> > enlightened leadership. It often takes great luminaries  like HPB 
to light a
> > fire in those around them. If the structure of the Theosophical
> > Society keeps out purposely or by default  those of advanced 
spiritual
> > development they will never attract new members. If new and 
enlightened
> > leadership do not come into an organization or institution to 
give it
> > continue renewal and spiritual life that institution will die a 
slow
> > agonizing death from  bureaucratic minutiae and organizational 
suffocation.
> > This is why some advocate revolution. If you cannot reform and 
change the
> > old structures you either create new ones in there place or get 
out of the
> > way and let those more responsive to the new Aquarian impulses do 
there
> > work.
> >
> >
> > DC
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: MKR <mkr777@...>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:46:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:TS - Are we ready for a coup?
> >
> > From an ordinary intelligent person's view, as I have mentioned 
several
> > time
> > previously, the most urgent real issue facing the TS is NOT 
changing the
> > rules.
> >
> > It is the rapid and continuing decline in the number of members 
in all the
> > sections outside India.
> >
> > TS was setup as fully autonomous at lodge and section levels. So 
the
> > problem
> > is the problem of section leaders and hard work of the members in 
the
> > section. Any amount of meddling with the rules is going to do 
nothing to
> > address the problem. The only thing that will do to by tweaking 
and
> > meddling
> > with the rules is for the GC members to disenfranchise the 
members and
> > seize
> > the control of the presidency and thus effectively making the 
president a
> > puppet in the hands of a few GC members.
> >
> > Once this happens, in our life time we will see the end of TS 
because we
> > are
> > not like other spiritual organizations whose basis is blind faith 
and blind
> > beliefs.
> >
> > Has anyone seen any GC member ever mention the membership decline 
issue? It
> > is a very sorry state of affairs.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  Dear friends,
> > >
> > > What is the main interest of the Theosophical Society as an
> > > international institution or common interest of all members of 
the
> > > Theosophical Society?
> > >
> > > In first place, to neutralize all partial interests of 
individual
> > > members or groups of members which identify themselves with 
those of
> > > the Theosophical Society and in that way to be able to realize 
its
> > > objects on the basis of its constitutional platform. In present
> > > situation common interest is wholly absent and crippled.
> > >
> > > The scissors and linen to overcome it are wholly in the hands 
of the
> > > elected President. She, and only she, has received a mandate to 
unify
> > > the Society under a common interest. She has the power and 
authority
> > > to do that.
> > >
> > > It is obvious that routine proceedings aren't enough to solve 
actual
> > > problem. According to Rules and Regulations the President has
> > > authority to: ? a special meeting may be called at any time by 
the
> > > President ? the President at his discretion may call such 
members to
> > > a meeting for the purpose of study and discussion of any matters
> > > concerning the Society that he considers appropriate to lay 
before
> > > them. The meeting may then forward to the President its report 
on
> > > such matters and may make recommendations thereon. Such meetings
> > > shall be of a consultative nature without administrative or
> > > legislative authority, or may be of a legislative nature upon 
the
> > > decision of the General Council taken at least one year in 
advance.
> > > In the event the President does not himself attend such a 
meeting he
> > > may appoint the Vice-President or some other member of the 
General
> > > Council to preside in his stead.
> > >
> > > On the basis of these Regulations and with the use of internet
> > > technology an extended discussion panel can be formed to address
> > > important critical issues. With making such discussion panel 
public
> > > the Theosophical Society would show to its members and public in
> > > general that it is able to overcome divisions and find a common
> > > interest according to the philosophy the Society is promoting.
> > >
> > > This is, in my opinion, the only way out from the death alley 
we are
> > > catched in.
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > > Anton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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