Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00129)

Well said.

"Proof of the pudding is in the eating."

Looking at the membership trend over the last 20 years world-wide outside of
India, there is a continuing steep decline. It continues every minute.

The structure of TS was deliberately setup by the wise ones with total
autonomy at lodge and section levels. So the buck stops at the sections.

To address any problem, first correct problem has to be identified. Then
solutions can be found.

Today's critical problem of TS is steep decline in membership in all
sections outside India. This is obvious. None of the "leaders"  even wants
to talk about it, because much of the decline took place in their watch and
they have no explanation.

Meddling with International Rules is not going to do anything to address the
membership growth, because TS is not a spiritual organization held together
by blind followers with blind faith and blind beliefs.

It is all about a handful of GC members trying to do away with members'
rights and seize power. That would give access to all the assets which they
can spend as they want. In addition, they can put their Puppet as the
President with wings clipped. Losers will be members, TS and theosophy.

And it would destroy TS in our life time, as members leave.

That is where we are today.

MKR

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:05 AM, Duane Carpenter <monad_monad_monad@yahoo.com
> wrote:

> All membership comes from inspiration. All inspiration comes from
> enlightened leadership. It often takes great luminaries  like HPB to light a
> fire in those around them. If the structure of the Theosophical
> Society keeps out purposely or by default  those of advanced spiritual
> development they will never attract new members. If new and enlightened
> leadership do not come into an organization or institution to give it
> continue renewal and spiritual life that institution will die a slow
> agonizing death from  bureaucratic minutiae and organizational suffocation.
> This is why some advocate revolution. If you cannot reform and change the
> old structures you either create new ones in there place or get out of the
> way and let those more responsive to the new Aquarian impulses do there
> work.
>
>
> DC
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:46:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:TS - Are we ready for a coup?
>
> From an ordinary intelligent person's view, as I have mentioned several
> time
> previously, the most urgent real issue facing the TS is NOT changing the
> rules.
>
> It is the rapid and continuing decline in the number of members in all the
> sections outside India.
>
> TS was setup as fully autonomous at lodge and section levels. So the
> problem
> is the problem of section leaders and hard work of the members in the
> section. Any amount of meddling with the rules is going to do nothing to
> address the problem. The only thing that will do to by tweaking and
> meddling
> with the rules is for the GC members to disenfranchise the members and
> seize
> the control of the presidency and thus effectively making the president a
> puppet in the hands of a few GC members.
>
> Once this happens, in our life time we will see the end of TS because we
> are
> not like other spiritual organizations whose basis is blind faith and blind
> beliefs.
>
> Has anyone seen any GC member ever mention the membership decline issue? It
> is a very sorry state of affairs.
>
> mkr
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >  Dear friends,
> >
> > What is the main interest of the Theosophical Society as an
> > international institution or common interest of all members of the
> > Theosophical Society?
> >
> > In first place, to neutralize all partial interests of individual
> > members or groups of members which identify themselves with those of
> > the Theosophical Society and in that way to be able to realize its
> > objects on the basis of its constitutional platform. In present
> > situation common interest is wholly absent and crippled.
> >
> > The scissors and linen to overcome it are wholly in the hands of the
> > elected President. She, and only she, has received a mandate to unify
> > the Society under a common interest. She has the power and authority
> > to do that.
> >
> > It is obvious that routine proceedings aren't enough to solve actual
> > problem. According to Rules and Regulations the President has
> > authority to: ? a special meeting may be called at any time by the
> > President ? the President at his discretion may call such members to
> > a meeting for the purpose of study and discussion of any matters
> > concerning the Society that he considers appropriate to lay before
> > them. The meeting may then forward to the President its report on
> > such matters and may make recommendations thereon. Such meetings
> > shall be of a consultative nature without administrative or
> > legislative authority, or may be of a legislative nature upon the
> > decision of the General Council taken at least one year in advance.
> > In the event the President does not himself attend such a meeting he
> > may appoint the Vice-President or some other member of the General
> > Council to preside in his stead.
> >
> > On the basis of these Regulations and with the use of internet
> > technology an extended discussion panel can be formed to address
> > important critical issues. With making such discussion panel public
> > the Theosophical Society would show to its members and public in
> > general that it is able to overcome divisions and find a common
> > interest according to the philosophy the Society is promoting.
> >
> > This is, in my opinion, the only way out from the death alley we are
> > catched in.
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> > Anton
> >
> >
> >
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