Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00126)

Dear friends and Duane

My views are:

Your words made me think of, that HPB mentioned, that she would create at 
new TS, if the leadership by H. S. Olcott and other leaders in 1888 did not 
improve.

So maybe a new and improved TS is the right and proper thing to do?
And what name should it have today?

Should it be concerned with Ufology and the many events which have happened 
since HPB died? Should it be concerned with the present day New Age groups? 
With the United Religions Initiative? etc. etc.

- - -
And maybe that is the agenda, the leadership in TS want to promote, ie. a 
new TS?
But a new TS without the leadership of the Masters themselves will have a 
greater risk of failure.

What other new groups are the Masters supporting today, meaning right now, 
if not TS?



M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Carpenter" <monad_monad_monad@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:TS - Are we ready for a coup?


All membership comes from inspiration. All inspiration comes from 
enlightened leadership. It often takes great luminaries like HPB to light a 
fire in those around them. If the structure of the Theosophical Society 
keeps out purposely or by default those of advanced spiritual development 
they will never attract new members. If new and enlightened leadership do 
not come into an organization or institution to give it continue renewal and 
spiritual life that institution will die a slow agonizing death from 
bureaucratic minutiae and organizational suffocation.
This is why some advocate revolution. If you cannot reform and change the 
old structures you either create new ones in there place or get out of the 
way and let those more responsive to the new Aquarian impulses do there 
work.


DC


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From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 6:46:43 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:TS - Are we ready for a coup?

> From an ordinary intelligent person's view, as I have mentioned several time
previously, the most urgent real issue facing the TS is NOT changing the
rules.

It is the rapid and continuing decline in the number of members in all the
sections outside India.

TS was setup as fully autonomous at lodge and section levels. So the problem
is the problem of section leaders and hard work of the members in the
section. Any amount of meddling with the rules is going to do nothing to
address the problem. The only thing that will do to by tweaking and meddling
with the rules is for the GC members to disenfranchise the members and seize
the control of the presidency and thus effectively making the president a
puppet in the hands of a few GC members.

Once this happens, in our life time we will see the end of TS because we are
not like other spiritual organizations whose basis is blind faith and blind
beliefs.

Has anyone seen any GC member ever mention the membership decline issue? It
is a very sorry state of affairs.

mkr



On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> What is the main interest of the Theosophical Society as an
> international institution or common interest of all members of the
> Theosophical Society?
>
> In first place, to neutralize all partial interests of individual
> members or groups of members which identify themselves with those of
> the Theosophical Society and in that way to be able to realize its
> objects on the basis of its constitutional platform. In present
> situation common interest is wholly absent and crippled.
>
> The scissors and linen to overcome it are wholly in the hands of the
> elected President. She, and only she, has received a mandate to unify
> the Society under a common interest. She has the power and authority
> to do that.
>
> It is obvious that routine proceedings aren't enough to solve actual
> problem. According to Rules and Regulations the President has
> authority to: . a special meeting may be called at any time by the
> President . the President at his discretion may call such members to
> a meeting for the purpose of study and discussion of any matters
> concerning the Society that he considers appropriate to lay before
> them. The meeting may then forward to the President its report on
> such matters and may make recommendations thereon. Such meetings
> shall be of a consultative nature without administrative or
> legislative authority, or may be of a legislative nature upon the
> decision of the General Council taken at least one year in advance.
> In the event the President does not himself attend such a meeting he
> may appoint the Vice-President or some other member of the General
> Council to preside in his stead.
>
> On the basis of these Regulations and with the use of internet
> technology an extended discussion panel can be formed to address
> important critical issues. With making such discussion panel public
> the Theosophical Society would show to its members and public in
> general that it is able to overcome divisions and find a common
> interest according to the philosophy the Society is promoting.
>
> This is, in my opinion, the only way out from the death alley we are
> catched in.
>
> Warmest regards,
> Anton


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