Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00147)

Dear friends,

I would like to futher elucidate a little the situation with 
the "Theosophy Forward" blog from my perspective. 

In first days of July it came to my notice (on theos_trans group 
which is dedicated to the translation of theosophical texts in Non-
English languages) that John Algeo is sharing his views in regard to 
past Elections with some of his friends. As I was interested to 
publish these letters I contacted John and ask him for the permission 
to publish them on my site. He said that he would agree under two 
conditions: that letters would be available only to TS members and 
that they can not be copied. As these conditions were reasonable to 
me and as I hoped that in that way some basic communication between 
leaders and members can be established, I created restricted TS 
Members Area, encrypted the files and publish them. 

Only few days ago, on October 2, I realized that there was 
created "Theosophy Forward" blog where these letters were now freely 
available to the public. I contacted John and proposed that I remove 
the restriction to the TS Members Area and make links to the relative 
letters present on the blog. He replied that he wasn't sure that blog 
is already online, but agreed with my proposal. 

Yesterday, on October 5, I received John's message that blog was 
taken offline because of some problems and that I can republish the 
documents as I find suitable.

My explanation of the situation is that after the publication of 
these letters on my site the idea to create a blog dedicated to the 
presentation of their views was born in John's informal circle and 
that steps were made to create it. I assume that the administrator 
put the blog online (probably he couldn't do otherwise as when a blog 
is created it is automatically online if some hosted service is used) 
and inserted mentioned letters using the dates when they were 
actually created. I assume further that all the conditions (probably 
similar as in the case of my web site) under which the documents will 
be presented on the blog were not determined yet and that therefore 
there was some frustration present with the fact that blog is already 
online. I think that these misunderstandings unfortunately lead to 
the decision to remove the blog from the net.

Warmest regards,
Anton


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> I learnt from reliable source that the site is closed down now, and 
won't be
> reopened.
> mkr
> 
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Katinka Hesselink <mail@...
> > wrote:
> 
> >   Hi all,
> >
> > Hans Kind is the brother of Jan Kind. The latter is a theosophist,
> > married to Terezinha Kind who is prominent in the TS in Latin 
America.
> > They met at Adyar. I know Jan. I don't know Hans. They are both 
Dutch.
> > Hans set the whole thing up. Jan Kind was acting as webmaster, 
from
> > what I could tell (managing the content - the technical process of
> > setting it up was apparently done by Hans). Hans and Jan are as
> > classicly dutch names as you can have.
> >
> > I have nothing to do with this blog, nor would I have abruptly 
taken
> > it offline like this. I would have made it look better, keep 
comments
> > open from the start (disruptive comments can always be deleted 
later)
> > and told you all about it way earlier.
> > I would certainly not have pretended I only found out about it
> > recently if that wasn't the case. My asking John Algeo about it 
was
> > the direct cause of it going offline, I'm afraid. He had been 
working
> > on it but wasn't aware that it was publicly accessible already.
> >
> > Further points: I would not have had it hosted in The Netherlands 
if
> > it was meant to reach an international public. Both my websites 
are
> > hosted in the US for that reason (not that I'm all that happy 
with the
> > host of my blog, but that's another story).
> >
> > However, it is clearly no coincidence that the contributors so far
> > have included several Dutch people: Jan Kind, Ali Ritsema (former
> > Dutch general secretary, now living in Belgium with her English
> > husband) and Wies Kuiper current Dutch general secretary. John 
Algeo
> > is also involved, as is Betty Bland. There was at least one other
> > contributor, but I forget her name (the contribution was 
interesting,
> > but I hadn't heard of her before and I'm terrible with names).
> >
> > I'm sorry to not have made a backup of that site when I had the
> > chance. I wonder when (and if) it will go online again.
> >
> > The online projects I'm personally responsible for are:
> > http://www.allconsidering.com/
> > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/
> > http://www.squidoo.com/katinkahesselink/
> >
> > I'm a contributor to two other theosophical blogs (started by 
Chris
> > Richardson USA):
> > http://theosophicalsociety.wordpress.com/
> > http://theosophist.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Katinka Hesselink
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, 
MKR
> > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Couple of days ago I noticed that the domain was from NL and 
thought
> > Katinka
> > > was the owner. Later only I found that perhaps someone else in 
NL.
> > Wonder
> > > who is the real owner?
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/5/08, Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have noticed yesterday (it is already Monday morning in
> > Sydney) that
> > > > the blog "theosophyforward", containing views of some General 
Council
> > > > members on TS matters after the Presidential election, was 
suddenly
> > > > taken offline. As a matter of fact, this seems to have 
happened soon
> > > > after Katinka Hesselink "announced" it!
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know why this has happened? I also noticed that 
Anton
> > > > mentions it in his website as offline. Does anyone know who 
its
> > > > webmaster is? While the blog was online I saw the name "Jan" 
on top of
> > > > the homepage. That seems to be a Dutch name. I wonder if it 
was
> > > > someone living in The Netherlands or a Dutch person living in 
the US,
> > > > or visiting the US.
> > > >
> > > > Pedro
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >  
> >
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