Re: Theos-World Re: Blog taken offline?
Oct 06, 2008 10:08 AM
by Erica Letzerich
Dear Anton,
Thank you for the explanation. Please do inform us if you upload all the contents of the blog in your site.
Erica
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Theos-World Re: Blog taken offline?
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:50 PM
Dear friends,
I would like to futher elucidate a little the situation with
the "Theosophy Forward" blog from my perspective.
In first days of July it came to my notice (on theos_trans group
which is dedicated to the translation of theosophical texts in Non-
English languages) that John Algeo is sharing his views in regard to
past Elections with some of his friends. As I was interested to
publish these letters I contacted John and ask him for the permission
to publish them on my site. He said that he would agree under two
conditions: that letters would be available only to TS members and
that they can not be copied. As these conditions were reasonable to
me and as I hoped that in that way some basic communication between
leaders and members can be established, I created restricted TS
Members Area, encrypted the files and publish them.
Only few days ago, on October 2, I realized that there was
created "Theosophy Forward" blog where these letters were now freely
available to the public. I contacted John and proposed that I remove
the restriction to the TS Members Area and make links to the relative
letters present on the blog. He replied that he wasn't sure that blog
is already online, but agreed with my proposal.
Yesterday, on October 5, I received John's message that blog was
taken offline because of some problems and that I can republish the
documents as I find suitable.
My explanation of the situation is that after the publication of
these letters on my site the idea to create a blog dedicated to the
presentation of their views was born in John's informal circle and
that steps were made to create it. I assume that the administrator
put the blog online (probably he couldn't do otherwise as when a blog
is created it is automatically online if some hosted service is used)
and inserted mentioned letters using the dates when they were
actually created. I assume further that all the conditions (probably
similar as in the case of my web site) under which the documents will
be presented on the blog were not determined yet and that therefore
there was some frustration present with the fact that blog is already
online. I think that these misunderstandings unfortunately lead to
the decision to remove the blog from the net.
Warmest regards,
Anton
--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I learnt from reliable source that the site is closed down now, and
won't be
> reopened.
> mkr
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Katinka Hesselink <mail@...
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Hans Kind is the brother of Jan Kind. The latter is a theosophist,
> > married to Terezinha Kind who is prominent in the TS in Latin
America.
> > They met at Adyar. I know Jan. I don't know Hans. They are both
Dutch.
> > Hans set the whole thing up. Jan Kind was acting as webmaster,
from
> > what I could tell (managing the content - the technical process of
> > setting it up was apparently done by Hans). Hans and Jan are as
> > classicly dutch names as you can have.
> >
> > I have nothing to do with this blog, nor would I have abruptly
taken
> > it offline like this. I would have made it look better, keep
comments
> > open from the start (disruptive comments can always be deleted
later)
> > and told you all about it way earlier.
> > I would certainly not have pretended I only found out about it
> > recently if that wasn't the case. My asking John Algeo about it
was
> > the direct cause of it going offline, I'm afraid. He had been
working
> > on it but wasn't aware that it was publicly accessible already.
> >
> > Further points: I would not have had it hosted in The Netherlands
if
> > it was meant to reach an international public. Both my websites
are
> > hosted in the US for that reason (not that I'm all that happy
with the
> > host of my blog, but that's another story).
> >
> > However, it is clearly no coincidence that the contributors so far
> > have included several Dutch people: Jan Kind, Ali Ritsema (former
> > Dutch general secretary, now living in Belgium with her English
> > husband) and Wies Kuiper current Dutch general secretary. John
Algeo
> > is also involved, as is Betty Bland. There was at least one other
> > contributor, but I forget her name (the contribution was
interesting,
> > but I hadn't heard of her before and I'm terrible with names).
> >
> > I'm sorry to not have made a backup of that site when I had the
> > chance. I wonder when (and if) it will go online again.
> >
> > The online projects I'm personally responsible for are:
> > http://www.allconsi dering.com/
> > http://www.katinkah esselink. net/
> > http://www.squidoo. com/katinkahesse link/
> >
> > I'm a contributor to two other theosophical blogs (started by
Chris
> > Richardson USA):
> > http://theosophical society.wordpres s.com/
> > http://theosophist. wordpress. com/
> >
> > Katinka Hesselink
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>,
MKR
> > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Couple of days ago I noticed that the domain was from NL and
thought
> > Katinka
> > > was the owner. Later only I found that perhaps someone else in
NL.
> > Wonder
> > > who is the real owner?
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/5/08, Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have noticed yesterday (it is already Monday morning in
> > Sydney) that
> > > > the blog "theosophyforward" , containing views of some General
Council
> > > > members on TS matters after the Presidential election, was
suddenly
> > > > taken offline. As a matter of fact, this seems to have
happened soon
> > > > after Katinka Hesselink "announced" it!
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know why this has happened? I also noticed that
Anton
> > > > mentions it in his website as offline. Does anyone know who
its
> > > > webmaster is? While the blog was online I saw the name "Jan"
on top of
> > > > the homepage. That seems to be a Dutch name. I wonder if it
was
> > > > someone living in The Netherlands or a Dutch person living in
the US,
> > > > or visiting the US.
> > > >
> > > > Pedro
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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