Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00140)

I'm rather hoping that when it starts working right, the Hadron Collider  
manages to make a Big  Bang, but because time and space do really strange  things 
near the speed of light, it manages to do it 13 billion years ago, thus  
giving the phrase, "Divine Watchmaker" a new meaning!
 
Thus, instead of "Let there be Light," the text will read, "Whoops!   We were 
hardly expecting that to happen!"
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:22:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
anandaam@googlemail.com writes:

 
 
 
John,

If science were to follow the uncertainty principle back to  universal
origins it might end up proclaiming that the universe arose in  an
instant, not out of the big bang, but out of a moment of  doubt.

Murthy

2008/9/23 <_Augoeides-222@Augoeides-2_ (mailto:Augoeides-222@comcast.net) >:
>  Chuck,
> OMG!!!! Are you implying that Mt. Meru is made of Granulated  Uncertainty
> Particles and Pebbles??? Is there a relation to the  Uncertainty Principle 
in
> modern Physics???? If the Universe is built  by Uncertainity Particles that
> means we are intrinsicely and immutably  and irrevocably all composed of
> Uncertainity Itself!!! Could that be  why we argue so much about anything 
and
> everything?? everything??<WBR>? The very  Air we breathe must also be compos
> of Uncertianty  particles that are certainly uncertain where they came from
> or where  they are going!!! OMG we don't have even a single Atom of 
Certainty
> in  our entire body!!!! Could there also be an Uncertainity Doom  Theory???
>
> Regards,
> John (uncertain about  that)
>
> ------------ ------------<WBR>-- Original messag -
> From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) 
> If  Theosophy is anything, it is ambiguous. The cosmos is built upon
>  uncertainty.
>
> Chuck the Heretic
>
> In a message  dated 9/23/2008 7:36:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> _silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com)   writes:
>
> Theosophy is a philosophy not a religion and as a  philosophy it must be
> coherent and without ambiguity. Leadbeater  brought ambiguity into theosophy
> by
> preaching opposing dogma  to what was stated by the originators. Dugpas are
> Masters of  Uncertainty!
>
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message  ----
> From: Martin <__Mvandertak@_Mvandert_ (mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva) _  
(mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) )  >
> To: _theos-talk@ To: _theos-ta To: _theos_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) )
>  Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 8:40:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World  Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes  ?
>
> Aren't we all believing in lies and half Truths?
>  Theosophy is wisdom of the gods it is said; if we want to believe in  the
> Truth we need to go for Ethymo-sophia or the wisdom of the Real or  reality
> and
> not some poxy stuff about gods, philosophers and  scientists. Reality is now
> and not in the past nor the future; we can  use the now springboarding into
> eternity.
> If there was so much  truth in theosophy, why are people still discussing it
> instead of  launching new ideas coming from the same source and developing
> f.i.  anthroposophy and alike science...
>
> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Cass  Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass> wrote:
>
> From: Cass  Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:  Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes  ?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23,  2008, 2:23 AM
>
> Daniel
> Anand will never admit that  Leadbeater got it wrong because he would then
> have to admit that he  (Anand) has spent 40 years in believing in lies.
>
>  Cass
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anand  <AnandGholap@ gmail.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>  Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 7:05:53 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re:  Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes  ?
>
> Subject of Theosophy, as understood by world and students  of
> Theosophy, is complex. When I read messages of students of  Blavatsky
> and messages of students of CWL, I find that what they  understand
> Theosophy and it's main concepts is very different. That  means
> Theosophical understanding of students of Blavatsky is different  from
> understanding of students of Leadbeater. Differences are big and  on
> important topics. It is possible that HPB and CWL had same meaning  in
> mind but expressed that in different words. But their impact  is
> certainly different on people. If somebody is referring Theosophy,  I
> might ask "are you talking about Theosophy of Blavatsky or are  you
> talking about Theosophy of Besant-Leadbeater ?"
> Similarly  reactions of westerners and Christians to Theosophy depend
> on what  they consider as Theosophy. When they consider Blavatsky's
> writing as  Theosophy, they ridicule, hate Theosophy. Such hatred is
> not expressed  by those Christians who consider CWL's writing as Theosophy.
> I have  come to a point where it is necessary to make clear distinction
>  between Theosophy of Leadbeater-Besant and Theosophy of Blavatsky. As
>  these two are different and have different effects on people, I feel
>  that such distinction is very necessary. It is because we often come
>  in contact with students of Blavatsky not agreeing with students of
>  Leadbeater and CWL-students ignoring Blavatsky's writing.
> I am also  feeling a need of writing article making it clear which
> Theosophy I  support and which Theosophy I reject. I agreed with CWL,
> but I did not  agree with Krishnamurti. I felt Krishnamurti' s teaching
> would do  damage to humanity. So I rejected openly K's teaching, just
> as  Catholic church openly rejects abortion and gay marriage.
> I feel that  I should now write article on which Theosophical ideas I
> support and  which Theosophical ideas I reject.
> Best
> Anand  Gholap
>
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