Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00160)

Chuck, 
  Well that Large Hadron Collider is having a few events.
  1. Hackers penetrated the system but were prevented from accessing the critical operational module they were aimed at.
  2. On the second preliminary ring test 10 of the magnets of the ring were damaged, and approx. 1 tom of cryogenic liquid Helium was leaked into the ring structure. They must be replaced.

   First estimates were 2 months delay but the lastest announcement says spring of next year earliest time of run up testing. 

Don't worry if things go awry you will hear a loud bang anf experience blackness that will be permanent (Service Fascimile 1)! Lol!

Regards,
John

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Drpsionic@aol.com 
I'm rather hoping that when it starts working right, the Hadron Collider 
manages to make a Big Bang, but because time and space do really strange things 
near the speed of light, it manages to do it 13 billion years ago, thus 
giving the phrase, "Divine Watchmaker" a new meaning!

Thus, instead of "Let there be Light," the text will read, "Whoops! We were 
hardly expecting that to happen!"

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:22:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
anandaam@googlemail.com writes:

John,

If science were to follow the uncertainty principle back to universal
origins it might end up proclaiming that the universe arose in an
instant, not out of the big bang, but out of a moment of doubt.

Murthy

2008/9/23 <_Augoeides-222@Augoeides-2_ (mailto:Augoeides-222@comcast.net) >:
> Chuck,
> OMG!!!! Are you implying that Mt. Meru is made of Granulated Uncertainty
> Particles and Pebbles??? Is there a relation to the Uncertainty Principle 
in
> modern Physics???? If the Universe is built by Uncertainity Particles that
> means we are intrinsicely and immutably and irrevocably all composed of
> Uncertainity Itself!!! Could that be why we argue so much about anything 
and
> everything?? everything??<WBR>? The very Air we breathe must also be compos
> of Uncertianty particles that are certainly uncertain where they came from
> or where they are going!!! OMG we don't have even a single Atom of 
Certainty
> in our entire body!!!! Could there also be an Uncertainity Doom Theory???
>
> Regards,
> John (uncertain about that)
>
> ------------ ------------<WBR>-- Original messag -
> From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) 
> If Theosophy is anything, it is ambiguous. The cosmos is built upon
> uncertainty.
>
> Chuck the Heretic
>
> In a message dated 9/23/2008 7:36:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> _silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) writes:
>
> Theosophy is a philosophy not a religion and as a philosophy it must be
> coherent and without ambiguity. Leadbeater brought ambiguity into theosophy
> by
> preaching opposing dogma to what was stated by the originators. Dugpas are
> Masters of Uncertainty!
>
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin <__Mvandertak@_Mvandert_ (mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva) _ 
(mailto:_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) ) >
> To: _theos-talk@ To: _theos-ta To: _theos_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) )
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 8:40:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes ?
>
> Aren't we all believing in lies and half Truths?
> Theosophy is wisdom of the gods it is said; if we want to believe in the
> Truth we need to go for Ethymo-sophia or the wisdom of the Real or reality
> and
> not some poxy stuff about gods, philosophers and scientists. Reality is now
> and not in the past nor the future; we can use the now springboarding into
> eternity.
> If there was so much truth in theosophy, why are people still discussing it
> instead of launching new ideas coming from the same source and developing
> f.i. anthroposophy and alike science...
>
> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass> wrote:
>
> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@silva_cass>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes ?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 2:23 AM
>
> Daniel
> Anand will never admit that Leadbeater got it wrong because he would then
> have to admit that he (Anand) has spent 40 years in believing in lies.
>
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 7:05:53 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about
> Blavatsky's mistakes ?
>
> Subject of Theosophy, as understood by world and students of
> Theosophy, is complex. When I read messages of students of Blavatsky
> and messages of students of CWL, I find that what they understand
> Theosophy and it's main concepts is very different. That means
> Theosophical understanding of students of Blavatsky is different from
> understanding of students of Leadbeater. Differences are big and on
> important topics. It is possible that HPB and CWL had same meaning in
> mind but expressed that in different words. But their impact is
> certainly different on people. If somebody is referring Theosophy, I
> might ask "are you talking about Theosophy of Blavatsky or are you
> talking about Theosophy of Besant-Leadbeater ?"
> Similarly reactions of westerners and Christians to Theosophy depend
> on what they consider as Theosophy. When they consider Blavatsky's
> writing as Theosophy, they ridicule, hate Theosophy. Such hatred is
> not expressed by those Christians who consider CWL's writing as Theosophy.
> I have come to a point where it is necessary to make clear distinction
> between Theosophy of Leadbeater-Besant and Theosophy of Blavatsky. As
> these two are different and have different effects on people, I feel
> that such distinction is very necessary. It is because we often come
> in contact with students of Blavatsky not agreeing with students of
> Leadbeater and CWL-students ignoring Blavatsky's writing.
> I am also feeling a need of writing article making it clear which
> Theosophy I support and which Theosophy I reject. I agreed with CWL,
> but I did not agree with Krishnamurti. I felt Krishnamurti' s teaching
> would do damage to humanity. So I rejected openly K's teaching, just
> as Catholic church openly rejects abortion and gay marriage.
> I feel that I should now write article on which Theosophical ideas I
> support and which Theosophical ideas I reject.
> Best
> Anand Gholap
>
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