Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00744)

I think a detailed response is needed to answer the questions you have
raised.

None of these message discussions would have taken place if the whole
election process was more transparent from early stages with all the facts
and plans laid out in simple terms so that everybody can understand and
Internet's multi-directional communication capabilities fully used. One way
communication does not cut it.

All the discussions here started when I received a letter from Betty Bland.
I was very pleased and honored to receive it from her since this is the
first time ever I received a personal letter from her home. I felt very
sorry about the mental and physical condition of Radha Burnier and was
waiting for the ballot to arrive. While waiting, when I surfed on the
Internet, I found the doctors certificates and firsthand personal
confirmation of Radha's fitness, which convinced me that Betty's information
was erroneous at the least and purposely misleading at the worst to induce
members to vote for Algeo. So I waited to hear from her with updated
information on Radha's health in the light of the above information. I am
still waiting. So far all I see is but silence. I think that Betty, as TSA
President, has a responsibility to inform members when compelling
contradictory information became available to her, because of her earlier
electioneering letter.

There are a large number of at-large members and many members who are still
in the dark about the full picture of Radha's health due to the erroneous
info provided to them in Betty's letter. Only those who have access to
Internet and know where to find the discussions about the election have more
information about the election. Those who do not have Internet access and
those who do not know where to find the info may have cast their ballots
based on erroneous and incomplete information, thus affecting the outcome of
the election.

What has happened has shattered the trust we have in our leaders. This is a
serious matter. As I have indicated earlier, in the history of TS, leaders
have lost their positions due to human failings due to human temptations
whose effects were not widespread. But, in the matter of TS International
Election, the effects of providing erroneous info thus affecting the outcome
may last a long time and could be world wide.

I hope I have made my position and concerns very clear.

M K Ramadoss

THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH

For quick access to all the important messages on TS International Election,
go to:

http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Elections_2008.htm




On 5/23/08, Jokela Petri <jokelap@dnainternet.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Ramadoss,
>
> I JUST DO NOT BELIVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Look at your motivations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> So, should we kick current president off her duty for electoneering?
> Why do not you write a letter about it to election committee?
>
> Pjo
>
> MKR kirjoitti:
> >
> > Hi, Jokela
> >
> > My concern was and is how the electioneering was done. The electioneering
> > has not helped anyone nor the TS. And I hope the GC finds a fix for
> > it. Let
> > us see what happens.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> > On 5/23/08, jokelap@dnainternet.net <jokelap%40dnainternet.net> <mailto:
> jokelap%40dnainternet.net <jokelap%2540dnainternet.net>>
> > <jokelap@dnainternet.net <jokelap%40dnainternet.net> <mailto:
> jokelap%40dnainternet.net <jokelap%2540dnainternet.net>>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > COME ON RAMADOS!
> > > YOu have also questioned John´s health.
> > > There has not been so much noice about it.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 22 May 2008 21:39:28 -0500
> > > MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com> <mailto:mkr777%40gmail.com<mkr777%2540gmail.com>>
>
> > <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > All the discussions that have taken place on theos-talk,
> > > >is not against any
> > > > candidate.
> > > >
> > > > It all got started when Radha's health issue was brought
> > > >up by the National
> > > > Secretaries in their communication to their members, to
> > > >influence members to
> > > > vote for John Algeo. The issue of Radha's poor health
> > > >was put to rest with
> > > > the doctors' certificates and first hand reports of
> > > >reputed members of TS.
> > > >
> > > > When this was done, no one took action to pass on
> > > >correct information to the
> > > > members. Those who in the first place fed erroneous
> > > >information to the
> > > > members have a responsibility of correcting the
> > > >misinformation when
> > > > subsequent factual information contradicted it. Nor John
> > > >Algeo distanced
> > > > himself from the misinformation.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, we also need to recognize the fact that
> > > >many members do not
> > > > have access to Internet and even many of those who do,
> > > >may not know where
> > > > the election information is available on the Internet.
> > > >As a result, even
> > > > today many are still under the mistaken information that
> > > >Radha Burnier is
> > > > sick and many may have voted for Algeo because of this.
> > > >
> > > > This leads to another more critical fundamental issue.
> > > >It raises the
> > > > question how we can trust the national leaders in the
> > > >future in anything
> > > > they say. In the past, some national leaders have lost
> > > >their positions
> > > > because of human errors due to normal human temptations.
> > > >The effects of such
> > > > human errors were local and short-term. Presenting
> > > >erroneous information
> > > > motivated with the object of getting their candidate
> > > >elected to the
> > > > International office, is far more serious. It is not a
> > > >human failure due to
> > > > human temptation. The effects on the TS are world wide
> > > >and long-lasting. So
> > > > members cannot ignore it and get on with our lives.
> > > >
> > > > You are right that we should make sure the French letter
> > > >is genuine. Some
> > > > weeks ago, I sent a message to Nano Leguay, the French
> > > >General
> > > > Secretary, requesting her to send me a correct English
> > > >translation of the
> > > >French letter sent to their members. To this day, I have
> > > >not heard from her.
> > > > So you can draw your own conclusion about her
> > > >non-response.
> > > >
> > > > This is where the matter stands. All the general
> > > >secretaries involved and
> > > > John Algeo, have been silent. So again, you have to come
> > > >to your own
> > > > conclusion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > M K Ramadoss
> > > >
> > > > THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH
> > > >
> > > >For quick access to all the important messages on TS
> > > >International Election,
> > > > go to:
> > > >
> > > > http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Elections_2008.htm
> > <http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Elections_2008.htm>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/22/08, Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@yahoo.com<kay_ziatz%40yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:kay_ziatz%40yahoo.com <kay_ziatz%2540yahoo.com>><kay_ziatz%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >><theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > >> "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@...>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > True. Rule 10 explains the procedure for the election
> > > >>as such. As
> > > >> > there was a letter, dated 29 March 2008, from the
> > > >>Board of the
> > > >> > French Section to all the TS members in that country
> > > >>saying, among
> > > >> > other things, that Radha Burnier had "brain damage"
> > > >>
> > > >> Campaining against Algeo, which is going on almost for
> > > >>two months, is
> > > >> not the best way to fix the problem.
> > > >> The best decision would be to make sure that the letter
> > > >>is genuine,
> > > >> and if so, to discuss the behaviour of French GS on the
> > > >>General
> > > >> Council.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
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