Re: Theos-World Re: TS Elections - Algeo's Plans?
May 13, 2008 11:57 AM
There is a long list of members of TS who grew up in Europe and the West
have lived in India and have never complained about the weather. Actually,
the weather inside the Adyar Estate is milder compared to what it is in the
city of Chennai. Names that comes to my mind are -- Olcott, Annie Besant,
Arundale, Ernest Wood, CWL, Schwarz, Radha's uncle's wife, Balfor Clarke,
Perkins, Sydney Cook and many others etc. All we need to do is to look up
the some of the historical literature. I think if someone wants home comfort
as in the USA, then they should stay home and be happy. It is a very easy
On 5/13/08, Anton Rozman <email@example.com> wrote:
> >"Dr. Algeo who is around 78, does not like the climate here, nor can
> he leave the United States for more than a short time, in view of his
> wife's condition. I believe that if elected he intends to work
> largely from America through e-mail and video conversations."
> We need to thank Radha Burnier for the letter. But for it, all of us
> would be in total darkness on these critical issues, because no one
> including John Algeo has explicitly addressed them. Nor any of his
> supporting Secretaries have touched on them.<
> It is obvious that the local people are best accustomed to the
> climate at Adyar and that apparently it can be pretty unpleasant for
> the persons from other parts of the world; at least it seems that
> this was so in the case of John Coats and Jean Raymond.
> We all know that the Biographical Data of Presidential Candidates
> didn't bring us the information about the health situation of the
> candidates and that this fact largely affected the ongoing election
> process in a negative way. This situation should be promptly settled
> by the Executive Committee, but this wasn't the case and therefore
> this unpleasant situation will probably last till the end of the
> But in regard to the way of work I think that John Algeo presents his
> point of view in an extensive manner on his web site.
> >Adyar must remain the administrative focus and the spiritual center
> of the Society, preferably with a skilled resident supervisor to
> oversee its upkeep and to interface effectively with civil
> authorities. But the international rules do not require residence at
> Adyar for administrators. Moreover, modern communication makes it
> possible for able and dedicated people around the world to serve in
> key administrative posts, without having to relocate from their
> homes. ?<
> To run efficiently the Adyar Estate probably an Estate Manager is
> needed with quite specific abilities and knowledge which do not have
> much in common with those needed by the President of the Theosophical
> Society. And it seems that Government of India is making great
> progress in this field - I came across this web site:
> But really promising for the decentralization and democracy in the
> Society is in my opinion the following:
> >The rules of the Theosophical Society establish the General Council
> as its governing and policy-making body. However, the Society has
> organizations in 51 nations, of which only 26 are Sections,
> represented on the General Council. We need regular ways of
> consulting the other 25 national bodies. ? the General Council
> normally meets only once a year at Adyar, and the number of those who
> are able to attend is usually only a minority of those eligible. But
> consultative meetings of available Council members can be held ?
> Communication, to be effective, needs to be mutual. We cannot just
> talk to people, we need to talk with them. We need to consult
> Theosophists around the world, to hear what they have to say.<
> These words offer solutions regarding quite a lot of issues we
> discussed on this mail list.
> And, Anand, thank you for your opinion in regard to the President's
> health condition; as said, truth is always somewhere in the middle.
> Best regards,
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > May 13, 2008
> > Dear Brother:
> > We have been discussing a lot about Radha Burnier's health. Very
> > attention has been paid to two other very important key issues. One
> > residence of the President at Adyar and second is Algeo's wife's
> > In Radha Burnier's letter, see link below, she stated:
> > "Dr. Algeo who is around 78, does not like the climate here, nor
> can he
> > leave the United States for more than a short time, in view of his
> > condition. I believe that if elected he intends to work largely
> from America
> > through e-mail and video conversations."
> > We need to thank Radha Burnier for the letter. But for it, all of
> us would
> > be in total darkness on these critical issues, because no one
> including John
> > Algeo has explicitly addressed them. Nor any of his supporting
> > have touched on them.
> > This letter has been circulated far and wide. As an ordinary
> member, I was
> > expecting a very simple and forthright refutal from John Algeo or
> one of his
> > supporters if any part of the above statement is not true. We
> waited and
> > waited and waited. All we have seen is silence.
> > So, the only conclusion we can reach is that, if elected, he is NOT
> > to reside in Adyar and is planning to discharge his duties as
> > President from the USA, perhaps from his home in Athens, Georgia,
> > Secondly, due to his wife's health, he will not be able to be away
> from home
> > for more than a short time. Simply translated, he may be stuck at
> his home.
> > Anyone who has to take care of a sick spouse can understand this
> very well.
> > After all "Duty" has highest priority in life.
> > There are several concerns, which I am sure many of you will share.
> We want
> > theosophists, especially one who aspire to occupy the highest
> position, be
> > fully transparent and forthright on such basic issues, because it
> > the future of TS. TRUTH never hurts.
> > So far John Algeo or his supporters have not refuted Radha Burnier's
> > statement. So one has to logically reach the conclusion that is
> what he is
> > planning to do, even though later he may claim he never committed
> he is
> > going live in Adyar.
> > I live in the USA, and even here, in spite of today's communication
> > technology, businesses have not succeeded in remote operation.
> While on
> > paper, it looks great, in real life it is not. Ask any businessman
> or woman
> > who owns a business. They will tell you their hands-on presence is
> > Business leaders have always lived at the Headquarters. It is
> important to
> > note this, because these owners will be personally ruined if they
> try to
> > remotely run their business. They are dealing with something they
> own and
> > operate.
> > When such is the case with businesses, with Theosophical Society,
> we are
> > dealing with an organization built at tremendous odds, by untold
> > of many who gave their prime of lives to build TS. All you have to
> do is to
> > read the history of TS.
> > And the plan discussed above, may WRECK TS.
> > I want all the members to ponder over the above matter and come to
> their own
> > conclusion.
> > Fraternally yours,
> > M K Ramadoss
> > Member, TS, San Antonio, Texas, USA
> > PS: The full letter is at:
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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