Re: Theos-World Re: Krishnamurti, theosophy, & the TS
May 12, 2008 11:36 PM
Thanks Cass for this.
Yes, all systems are abandoned in the end, however
when we follow some, we take the Truth from them with
My understanding of K is he taught and punished at the
same time, however his punishment was Natural with a
hidden lesson for each of his followers to be learned.
In that way he was a system, his lower self is not of
importance to any of us. The rest is within us ready
to be seen the moment we have taught our lower self to
OBEY to the Master inside. The Master we all have in
--- Cass Silva <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Martin, one major flaw, imo, in Krishnamurti's
> teaching is that he incarnated with his lower self
> under his control. For us to do this can result in
> mental trauma as it requires us to deny inner
> truths. Memory is a major factor, and to deny a
> memory of a past incident in our life is to deny its
> existence, which is clearly delusional. This is why
> I believe Advaita can be very dangerous for the
> western student.
> Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Aryel Sanat:
> I read your piece of thought and some stuff on your
> A very good article there is about Avatara's.
> This idea of avataras has kept me busy since I
> on swallowing the food my evil mother tried to put
> my mouth when I was 1 year of age.
> 48 years later I am transforming my ego into non ego
> and thus receiving Ego.
> The most interesting here is this 'new' Ego is the
> same as I feel within others, ain't that weird!
> Especially when I feel a wave of this new Ego
> this system of mine, people look at me and talk to
> me:' I know you but can't remember you?'
> I never met these people!
> Then I see me playing any instrument as an super
> virtuoso, answering all questions with the right
> sollutions, to be followed by an enormous sense of
> wrath and justice.
> The waves in me stop a while then and I become ego
> again for a while. A real shizophrenic I woulöd say,
> I feel I am halfway the process now and on the
> crossroads of speak or shut up...I choose speak for
> while, since I am sober enough not to have this
> personality be sucked up in vanity fair nor does it
> have the idle idea of being of ANY importance. We
> all One, so I am just 1 of those billions of needles
> sticking out of the 'voodood' earth.
> I can hear the drums of war in the near future and I
> am sure you will be confident then to know
> theosophy will have merged into Theoschatty. You ask
> Dutchman what the word 'schat' means :-)
> --- Aryel Sanat <email@example.com> wrote:
> > It's great to be back in touch with you Pedro,
> > though of course email
> > is not the same! Unfortunately, I don't know for
> > how long I might be
> > able to stay participating on the list, because
> > working at the
> > computer tends to bring back symptoms from the
> > stroke I suffered a
> > year ago (on top of health issues I'd been dealing
> > with since spring
> > 2003). In fact, I "shouldn't" be doing this. But
> > it's obvious that
> > the TS is right now at what may be the most
> > important crossroads in
> > its history, & we all have to do what we can.
> > Please give my
> > affectionate regards to the many friends Down
> > Aryel
> > On May 12, 2008, at 8:14 AM, prmoliveira wrote:
> > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Aryel Sanat
> > <asanat@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A Theosophist might find it
> > > > difficult to understand someone trying to
> > some of the
> > > > implications of theosophy. A Theosophist might
> > expect to see his
> > > > ideas & expectations, based mostly on reading
> > books & listening to
> > > > "knowledgeable" people, confirmed in some way
> > another. A
> > > > Theosophist might even be shocked to hear what
> > theosophist might
> > > > say on some subjects.
> > >
> > > Welcome to theos-talk, Aryel, and thank you for
> > your introductory
> > > remarks. They reminded me of our conversations
> > Adyar in 2002 and
> > > in Australia in early 2003. They also reminded
> > of one of my
> > > favourite passages in The Mahatma Letters:
> > >
> > > "You share with all beginners the tendency to
> > too absolutely
> > > strong inferences from partly caught hints, and
> > dogmatize
> > > thereupon as though the last word had been
> > You will correct
> > > this in due time. You may misunderstand us, are
> > more than likely to
> > > do so, for our language must always be more or
> > less that of parable
> > > and suggestion, when treading upon forbidden
> > ground; we have our own
> > > peculiar modes of expression and what lies
> > the fence of words
> > > is even more important than what you read. But
> > still ? TRY."
> > >
> > > (Letter 111, chronological edition)
> > >
> > > Greetings from Down Under.
> > >
> > > Pedro
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > removed]
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