Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00462)

Hi Pedro,

Although it seems that you are avoiding the discussion you were 
invited to and which could lead to an unbiased view on the ongoing 
election process I will anyway answer your questions, but also 
propose that you try to understand my message as an attempt to bring 
the health issue in broader perspective then those views which try to 
use it for their narrow political aims.

>Are you suggesting, in your statement mentioned above, that both Dr. 
P. Thirumalai and Dr. M. A. Raveendran have lied in their public 
statements about Radha Burnier's health?<

No, I suggest that they have expressed their opinion from their 
personal perspective (as there do not exist in the Theosophical 
Society an overall agreement what the role of the President is) what 
the office of the President of the Theosophical Society demands from 
the person who runs for it and that their opinion was also influenced 
by the ongoing personal estimations from the supporters of the other 
candidate regarding the health conditions of the actual President.

For instance, I am 55 years old, healthy and in quite good physical 
shape but do not consider that I am "fit to undertake any 
responsibility involving strenuous physical and mental activity". I 
would not dare to express such statement for any person who has 
passed the age of 50. But this is just my view.

>Would you call the categorical statements below, which were sent to 
thousands of TS members, BEFORE the voting began, suspicions?<

I obviously used this word; I could probably use some other; but you 
can replace it for your purposes with any other at your choice.

Best regards,
Anton


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Common sense tells me that in the case of 84 year old person who 
> had 
> > a stroke such statements hardly reflects the actual situation and 
> > that doctors comments regarding the situation in the Society and 
> the 
> > time when they were issued, clearly indicates that these 
documents 
> > were produced because of the President's needs in regard to the 
> > election process. 
> 
> 
> Are you suggesting, in your statement mentioned above, that both 
Dr. 
> P. Thirumalai and Dr. M. A. Raveendran have lied in their public 
> statements about Radha Burnier's health?
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/44213
> 
> 
> > In the absence of the practice that the candidates for the office 
> of 
> > the President should expose themselves to the overall medical 
> > examination the election process became, quite naturally in my 
> > opinion, influenced by the suspicions in regard to the actual 
> > President's fitness from the part of, but far not only, the 
> > supporters of contra candidate and by the reaction of the 
> supporters 
> > of the actual President with the production of documents in her 
> > favor. 
> 
> 
> Would you call the categorical statements below, which were sent to 
> thousands of TS members, BEFORE the voting began, suspicions? 
> 
> 
> "she had a serious stroke which left her unable to speak for at 
least
> a month and deprived her of a large part of her memory. Her recovery
> was slow and incomplete, especially as far as short term memory and
> recall of names are concerned. In conversation, she no longer
> understands anything but short and simple sentences."
> 
> (Maxence Ondet, Secretary to the French TS Board, in a letter to all
> TS members in France, 29 March 2008)
> 
> "...showed a weakened mind or brain damage." (from Ondet's letter
> above mentioned)
> 
> "What a pity that such a great soul now errs because of the
> misfunctioning of the brain!"
> 
> (Tran-Thi-Kim-Dieu, Chairman of the European Federation of the TS
> since 1995 and additional member of the Society's General Council, 
in
> a circular email message to dozens of people around the world, 20
> March 2007)
> 
> "Radha seems to be recovering physically from the stroke she 
suffered
> a year ago, but, given her age, she still has periods of low energy
> and her memory is inconsistent."
> 
> (Betty Bland, National President of the TS in America in a letter to
> TSA members, April 11, 2008)
> 
> 
> Pedro Oliveira
>