Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00392)

If you go to many Indian homes, you will find picture of young Krishna with
a Cow. Also you will find Krishna depicted as a Chauffeur of a chariot drawn
by horses lecturing Arjuna in battle field. So we do not know exactly how
much of these are legends and how much are real facts.

You can also Google and find some of these pictures.

mkr

On 2/27/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Was Krishna a warrior or a cowboy? You are making me imagine an Avatar
> doing choreography to Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', sorry if I offend
> anyone, but it is quite an amusing thought. I'm sure KH and M would
> appreciate the humour in it.
>
> Cass
>
> MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> Why not? When a cowboy (Krishna) was an Avatara?
>
> mkr
>
> On 2/26/08, Cass Silva wrote:
> >
> > He's a rapper!
> > Cass
> >
> > Antonio/Tony None >
> > wrote:
> > You say it is for me to come forward, well I have moved my first foot
> > closer to you. Now the choice is yours.
> >
> > Divine Maitreya
> >
> > http://www.myspace.com/divinemaitreya
> >
> > nhcareyta > wrote:
> > "True, we have our schools and teachers, our
> > neophytes and shaberons (superior adepts), and
> > the door is always opened to the right man who
> > knocks. And we invariably welcome the new comer;
> > only, instead of going over to him he has to come
> > to us. More than that; unless he has reached that
> > point in the path of occultism from which return
> > is impossible, by his having irrevocably pledged
> > himself to our association, we never ? except in
> > cases of utmost moment ? visit him or even cross
> > the threshold of his door in visible appearance."
> > L 2 Mahatma Letters to A P Sinnett;chrolology of
> > George Linton and Virginia Hanson
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "adelasie" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > >
> > > It's useful to consider sometimes too, in this connection, that the
> > > Master is a living being within each of us, within all humanity.
> > The
> > > Lodge of Masters is the more highly evolved component of humanity
> > at
> > > large, the Inner Knower, the composite Higher Self of each
> > > individual. The Master, in one sense, does not need to come to the
> > > student. The Master is always there, waiting for the student to
> > allow
> > > the still small voice of the inner world to permeate his
> > > consciousness. The more we try to practice the teachings we
> > respect,
> > > the more we allow that inner consciousness to impinge upon our
> > daily
> > > reality. Without ruling out any possibilities, we can consider that
> > > the great Teacher of humanity in this avataric cycle, the second
> > > Millennium after the cycle of the Christ called Jesus by some, may
> > > have another form, may be an inner manifestation that reaches all
> > > mankind, to the extent it can be received. If we look around our
> > > world and notice the amazing changes and advances in many aspects
> > of
> > > life that have occurred in the last century, we might at least
> > assume
> > > that something big is happening.
> > >
> > > Adelasie
> > >
> > > On 24 Feb 2008 at 6:40, Frank Reitemeyer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Adelasie,
> > > > that's not wrong.
> > > >
> > > > But other than some in the Adyar TS and ULT believe, the Masters
> > do not stop
> > > > working, having a break and then work again.
> > > > The "machine" is always working and they send always their co-
> > workers out,
> > > > whether we know it or not.
> > > >
> > > > The master comes, when the pupil is ready.
> > > > Those theosophists (and I know a lot, which think so), who think,
> > that they
> > > > can wait, until an adept comes into their living room, asking for
> > support,
> > > > fail.
> > > > They can wait until the Day-come-to-us.
> > > >
> > > > Those, who think, all is done, HPB did all the work needed for
> > the next
> > > > cycle and nothing is left over to be worked out, justify just
> > their
> > > > laziness.
> > > > HPB had greater things in mind than the TS. Even a Rene Guenon
> > understood
> > > > this.
> > > > Why not theosophists, too?
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: adelasie
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:09 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World The Coming Teacher?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we could consider the possibility of the "teacher" of the
> > > > present 2000 year avataric cycle is the heart of humanity itself.
> > If
> > > > we accept that we, the collective race, are at a crossroads in our
> > > > evolution, that we have reached the make or break it time, and
> > that
> > > > the impulse of the avataric message has been given to the hearts
> > of
> > > > all mankind, then we may be able to see that the opportunity is
> > > > available to all. Can we live a life of altruism? Can we be
> > examples
> > > > to the world's disenfranchised, those who suffer the retribution
> > of
> > > > eons of man's inhumanity to man? Can we make a decision to
> > practice
> > > > brotherhood, the Golden Rule of antiquity, handed down to us in
> > these
> > > > pivotal times as a guidepost? If I would not want others to do so
> > to
> > > > me, then I will not do so to them? Can we realise, and behave
> > > > accordingly, that all life is one, that the least of us has the
> > power
> > > > to affect the greatest? It's worth a try.
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > >
> > > > On 24 Feb 2008 at 3:17, nhcareyta wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Frank
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Schuller wrote, "On September 7, 1875, Helena
> > > > > Petrovna Blavatsky and Henry Steel Olcott founded
> > > > > the Theosophical Society.
> > > > > They were directed to do so by two eastern Adepts
> > > > > or Masters, Morya and Koot Hoomi.(1) Besides its
> > > > > three official objects (1a), the mission of the
> > > > > Theosophical Society was to prepare the world for
> > > > > the coming of a great spiritual teacher, expected
> > > > > in the last quarter of the 20th century."
> > > > >
> > > > > When I agreed with your statement, they "did not...worked
> > > > > towards the 1975 messenger" you wrote, "not so" and
> > > > > introduced that Dr Purucker, Iverson Harris and Emmett
> > > > > Small taught and wrote about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is what Dr Purucker or others said years after the
> > death of
> > > > > Madame Blavatsky then I respectfully disagree with their
> > > > > interpretation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Schuller is referring to Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > > teachers "mission" through the formation of the
> > > > > Theosophical Society by virtue of the substantiating
> > > > > quote he uses from the Key to Theosophy, and the word
> > > > > "was" in the sentence quoted.
> > > > >
> > > > > So reiterating, I don't accept the premise that the
> > > > > deliberate "mission" of Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > > teachers' Theosophical Society was to "...prepare the
> > > > > world for the coming of a great spiritual teacher."
> > > > >
> > > > > My concern is one of emphasis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where Madame Blavatsky referred to the possibility of
> > > > > a "new torch-bearer of Truth" it was in the following
> > > > > terms:
> > > > >
> > > > > "If the present attempt, in the form of our Society,
> > > > > succeeds better than its predecessors have done..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Please note the word "if."
> > > > >
> > > > > And:
> > > > >
> > > > > "If the Theosophical Society survives and lives true
> > > > > to its mission, to its original impulses through the
> > > > > next hundred years..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Note again the word "if."
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, if the Society (members) abides by
> > > > > its objects (those of 1889) and lives up to its
> > > > > "mission" of alleviating suffering, and popularizing
> > > > > "...a knowledge of theosophy" (their version of theosophy)
> > > > > then possibly, a new teacher may arrive.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the next passage confirms:
> > > > >
> > > > > "In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed,
> > > > > and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters
> > > > > of Wisdom..." S.D Vol 1 "Introduction"
> > > > >
> > > > > Please note the word "may."
> > > > >
> > > > > So whichever way we perceive it, there were/are many
> > > > > conditions attached to the arrival of a new teacher.
> > > > >
> > > > > From my perspective then Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > > teachers' "mission" through their Theosophical
> > > > > Society was not specific preparation for the arrival
> > > > > of a new teacher 100 years hence, despite the cyclic
> > > > > potential for this to occur.
> > > > >
> > > > > They and their Society were working with the conditions
> > > > > of the day and they knew that karma would decide
> > > > > whether or not there would be another attempt a century
> > > > > later.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was and is for each of us as Theosophical students,
> > > > > and humanity as a whole, to earn whatever arises pursuant
> > > > > to the law of karma, not to look forward to a future
> > > > > teacher or saviour as Mr Schuller's and others' emphasis
> > > > > may construe in the minds of many.
> > > > >
> > > > > This perception of what Madame Blavatsky wrote can
> > > > > lead to many unhelpful attitudes and practices
> > > > > including the potential for a messianic craze such
> > > > > as happened in the Adyar Theosophical Society.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspect the same danger lurks to this day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Nigel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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