Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00389)

Was Krishna a warrior or a cowboy?  You are making me imagine an Avatar doing choreography to Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', sorry if I offend anyone, but it is quite an amusing thought.  I'm sure KH and M would appreciate the humour in it.
   
  Cass

MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:
  Why not? When a cowboy (Krishna) was an Avatara?

mkr

On 2/26/08, Cass Silva wrote:
>
> He's a rapper!
> Cass
>
> Antonio/Tony None >
> wrote:
> You say it is for me to come forward, well I have moved my first foot
> closer to you. Now the choice is yours.
>
> Divine Maitreya
>
> http://www.myspace.com/divinemaitreya
>
> nhcareyta > wrote:
> "True, we have our schools and teachers, our
> neophytes and shaberons (superior adepts), and
> the door is always opened to the right man who
> knocks. And we invariably welcome the new comer;
> only, instead of going over to him he has to come
> to us. More than that; unless he has reached that
> point in the path of occultism from which return
> is impossible, by his having irrevocably pledged
> himself to our association, we never ? except in
> cases of utmost moment ? visit him or even cross
> the threshold of his door in visible appearance."
> L 2 Mahatma Letters to A P Sinnett;chrolology of
> George Linton and Virginia Hanson
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com ,
> "adelasie" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > It's useful to consider sometimes too, in this connection, that the
> > Master is a living being within each of us, within all humanity.
> The
> > Lodge of Masters is the more highly evolved component of humanity
> at
> > large, the Inner Knower, the composite Higher Self of each
> > individual. The Master, in one sense, does not need to come to the
> > student. The Master is always there, waiting for the student to
> allow
> > the still small voice of the inner world to permeate his
> > consciousness. The more we try to practice the teachings we
> respect,
> > the more we allow that inner consciousness to impinge upon our
> daily
> > reality. Without ruling out any possibilities, we can consider that
> > the great Teacher of humanity in this avataric cycle, the second
> > Millennium after the cycle of the Christ called Jesus by some, may
> > have another form, may be an inner manifestation that reaches all
> > mankind, to the extent it can be received. If we look around our
> > world and notice the amazing changes and advances in many aspects
> of
> > life that have occurred in the last century, we might at least
> assume
> > that something big is happening.
> >
> > Adelasie
> >
> > On 24 Feb 2008 at 6:40, Frank Reitemeyer wrote:
> >
> > > Adelasie,
> > > that's not wrong.
> > >
> > > But other than some in the Adyar TS and ULT believe, the Masters
> do not stop
> > > working, having a break and then work again.
> > > The "machine" is always working and they send always their co-
> workers out,
> > > whether we know it or not.
> > >
> > > The master comes, when the pupil is ready.
> > > Those theosophists (and I know a lot, which think so), who think,
> that they
> > > can wait, until an adept comes into their living room, asking for
> support,
> > > fail.
> > > They can wait until the Day-come-to-us.
> > >
> > > Those, who think, all is done, HPB did all the work needed for
> the next
> > > cycle and nothing is left over to be worked out, justify just
> their
> > > laziness.
> > > HPB had greater things in mind than the TS. Even a Rene Guenon
> understood
> > > this.
> > > Why not theosophists, too?
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: adelasie
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World The Coming Teacher?
> > >
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > Perhaps we could consider the possibility of the "teacher" of the
> > > present 2000 year avataric cycle is the heart of humanity itself.
> If
> > > we accept that we, the collective race, are at a crossroads in our
> > > evolution, that we have reached the make or break it time, and
> that
> > > the impulse of the avataric message has been given to the hearts
> of
> > > all mankind, then we may be able to see that the opportunity is
> > > available to all. Can we live a life of altruism? Can we be
> examples
> > > to the world's disenfranchised, those who suffer the retribution
> of
> > > eons of man's inhumanity to man? Can we make a decision to
> practice
> > > brotherhood, the Golden Rule of antiquity, handed down to us in
> these
> > > pivotal times as a guidepost? If I would not want others to do so
> to
> > > me, then I will not do so to them? Can we realise, and behave
> > > accordingly, that all life is one, that the least of us has the
> power
> > > to affect the greatest? It's worth a try.
> > >
> > > Adelasie
> > >
> > > On 24 Feb 2008 at 3:17, nhcareyta wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Frank
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Schuller wrote, "On September 7, 1875, Helena
> > > > Petrovna Blavatsky and Henry Steel Olcott founded
> > > > the Theosophical Society.
> > > > They were directed to do so by two eastern Adepts
> > > > or Masters, Morya and Koot Hoomi.(1) Besides its
> > > > three official objects (1a), the mission of the
> > > > Theosophical Society was to prepare the world for
> > > > the coming of a great spiritual teacher, expected
> > > > in the last quarter of the 20th century."
> > > >
> > > > When I agreed with your statement, they "did not...worked
> > > > towards the 1975 messenger" you wrote, "not so" and
> > > > introduced that Dr Purucker, Iverson Harris and Emmett
> > > > Small taught and wrote about this.
> > > >
> > > > If this is what Dr Purucker or others said years after the
> death of
> > > > Madame Blavatsky then I respectfully disagree with their
> > > > interpretation.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Schuller is referring to Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > teachers "mission" through the formation of the
> > > > Theosophical Society by virtue of the substantiating
> > > > quote he uses from the Key to Theosophy, and the word
> > > > "was" in the sentence quoted.
> > > >
> > > > So reiterating, I don't accept the premise that the
> > > > deliberate "mission" of Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > teachers' Theosophical Society was to "...prepare the
> > > > world for the coming of a great spiritual teacher."
> > > >
> > > > My concern is one of emphasis.
> > > >
> > > > Where Madame Blavatsky referred to the possibility of
> > > > a "new torch-bearer of Truth" it was in the following
> > > > terms:
> > > >
> > > > "If the present attempt, in the form of our Society,
> > > > succeeds better than its predecessors have done..."
> > > >
> > > > Please note the word "if."
> > > >
> > > > And:
> > > >
> > > > "If the Theosophical Society survives and lives true
> > > > to its mission, to its original impulses through the
> > > > next hundred years..."
> > > >
> > > > Note again the word "if."
> > > >
> > > > In other words, if the Society (members) abides by
> > > > its objects (those of 1889) and lives up to its
> > > > "mission" of alleviating suffering, and popularizing
> > > > "...a knowledge of theosophy" (their version of theosophy)
> > > > then possibly, a new teacher may arrive.
> > > >
> > > > As the next passage confirms:
> > > >
> > > > "In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed,
> > > > and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters
> > > > of Wisdom..." S.D Vol 1 "Introduction"
> > > >
> > > > Please note the word "may."
> > > >
> > > > So whichever way we perceive it, there were/are many
> > > > conditions attached to the arrival of a new teacher.
> > > >
> > > > From my perspective then Madame Blavatsky and her
> > > > teachers' "mission" through their Theosophical
> > > > Society was not specific preparation for the arrival
> > > > of a new teacher 100 years hence, despite the cyclic
> > > > potential for this to occur.
> > > >
> > > > They and their Society were working with the conditions
> > > > of the day and they knew that karma would decide
> > > > whether or not there would be another attempt a century
> > > > later.
> > > >
> > > > It was and is for each of us as Theosophical students,
> > > > and humanity as a whole, to earn whatever arises pursuant
> > > > to the law of karma, not to look forward to a future
> > > > teacher or saviour as Mr Schuller's and others' emphasis
> > > > may construe in the minds of many.
> > > >
> > > > This perception of what Madame Blavatsky wrote can
> > > > lead to many unhelpful attitudes and practices
> > > > including the potential for a messianic craze such
> > > > as happened in the Adyar Theosophical Society.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect the same danger lurks to this day.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nigel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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