Re: Theos-World LCC's place in Christian Movement
Feb 18, 2008 00:54 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
To all readers
My views are:
Dear Perry, I do consider you below words as very interesting.
I do however as a theosophical seeker ask myself if what is and was being taught at LCC was Gupta-Vidya and not a mere dualistic doctrine about a male "holy ghost" so to speak.
We know, that Gnosis is the same as Gupta-Vidya and Atma-Vidya according to theosophical terminology.
So when I lean over and so to speak use my x-ray lenses on the LCC and its activities, the only thing I see is a group of wellmeaning persons, who lives in a narrowminded christianized thought-pattern and not in the Gnosis world of multicultural wisdom and activity. It is then I conclude, that the world of Gupta-Vidya, the real Gnosis, is theosophy and not the fake narrowminded one the LCC undertakes and supports. And I say this in all friendliness.
Yes, The LCC is a path. But it is not a multicultural one. I guess it is a path given to those who dislike anything multicultural but a Christian outlook upon the world. You may prove be wrong if you are able to do so.
And a non-multicultural outlook upon the world we all know the sad consequences of.
The fact is that LCC have never clearly demonstrated the huge difference there is between its own doctrines, whether it is the theosophical doctrines, and the doctrines of the Jesuits (or "False Christians" is perhaps a more precise use of words). When LCC will do that I might consider them a solid alternative. When not, they are no alternative at all in my anti-Jesuit worldview.
H. P. Blavatsky wrote the following article, which the LCC camp as far as I know not often contemplates:
"THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM?"
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm
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I came to think about, whether the altar bread used are ecological like it was at C. W. Leadbeater's time.
I bet it today is bread based on a pesticid and hormon-regulated crop, but I might be wrong. Here could at least be done an effort, if the Jesuit issue is too tough to swallow. :-)
I do hope I have not shaken your worldview too much?
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: plcoles1
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:03 AM
Subject: Theos-World LCC's place in Christian Movement
Hello All,
I just thought I'd like to add a few comments that perhaps try and
look at the Liberal Catholic Church as a part of the Christian
movement rather than the theosophical movement.
I have come to rethink over this issue and perhaps the below points
are worth considering.
Christianity is a vastly diverse tradition.
In my opinion the LCC fills a much needed niece today and probably
more so when the LCC came into being, as with all groups they have
their own problems and internal issues that need to be worked
through over time; it does however also offer people who feel a
leaning towards mystical Christianity a place to explore it, in a by
on large non dogmatic fashion.
While following a fairly set ritual practice it does not demand
anybody to believe anything and permits any body to partake of Holy
Communion at its altars.
It teaches Christianity as one path but not the only one, it
certainly does not teach that a person who is not a Christian will
not find "Salvation" but rather teaches that the Sacraments are
tools that can help rather than being essentials and that there are
many roads up the mountainside.
CWL and Wedgwood took out all reference to hell fire and damnation
in the liturgy.
If we get too focused in picking things to pieces sometimes we can
miss the positive aspects that there may be to find in something.
The LCC is one of the few mystical churches in the world today
surely this has a place and if people find this kind of mystical
practice helpful who are we to sit in judgement, every person is on
their own spiritual journey and each person who participates in any
kind of ritual / spiritual practice has their own motives and way of
processing.
Regards
Perry
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