Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00065)

That has been my dilemma too, have you ever asked
yourself why KH and others went on watching the
slaughtering of people in Africa in the 19th century?

Nothing seems to have changed since then. We can all
watch the slaughter of people every day on our TV sets
or in the cinema...
When I was a boy I once went to a slaughter house
where I saw a cow being shot and hung and its neck
knived...I went outside and saw barrels filled with
eyes and other parts of animals. Later I found out
they use these remains for glue on stamps..imagine my
surprise, I have been a vegetarian most of my life...
The only reason I could think off to do something
about it was not supporting killing in ANY way...

I think beings who choose for death consciously or
unconsciously get death. We have no free will in the
universe, we only have free choice...



--- Richard Semock <semockr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Someone mentioned earlier that there is video
> exposing the Jap ships 
> that are slaughtering whales so the expose part has
> been taken care 
> of and now all we have to do if I hear you right, is
> sit back and let 
> nature take the proper course of action. I don't
> mind waiting, I can 
> use the time to read thru the SD a couple more
> times, what do you 
> plan to do while you are waiting. 
> 
> I have to admit tho that I feel somewhat like a
> dharma bum in this 
> scenario and I don't think the whales will like this
> plan none too 
> much either.
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin
> <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
> >
> > Check out the letter of the Maha Chohan, its all
> laid
> > out there...
> > On war you can go short: don't support people who
> kill
> > or who want to kill. 
> > No harmonic/loving mind would want to kill, the
> other
> > minds should be locked up.
> > Thou shall not kill, not even the air you breathe:
> > when breathing out you could think I am nature
> owned,
> > when I breathe I give life and renew what is
> > inappropriate...
> > Even the worst enemies of humanity shouldn't be
> > killed, since nature ( who is the one who actually
> > decides when some1 or something has to die)has a
> > special treatment for them...you just track the
> > enemies down and expose them, thats all.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > While we speak of the cruelty to animals, we
> should
> > > also keep in mind the
> > > maiming, death and destruction casued in wars
> and
> > > sacrificing of healthy
> > > young men and women for the sake of "world
> peace",
> > > "national security",
> > > "democrary", "freedom", "emancipation of women"
> etc.
> > >  Also when we look at
> > > people (even theosophists)  who organize
> > > treatments/therapies for those
> > > coming back from war with mental problems, these
> are
> > > the same people who say
> > > not a word about the war itself which is the
> root
> > > cause of all these
> > > suffering. This reminds me of the comments of
> Ted
> > > Turner, the guy who
> > > started CNN said before the war -- it is the
> dumbest
> > > thing to do and he
> > > repeated it even recently.
> > > 
> > > mkr
> > > 
> > > On 2/9/08, adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Interesting comparison, Cass,
> > > >
> > > > ...as barbaric as a savage eating the heart of
> a
> > > lion to transfer its
> > > > strength to the eater.
> > > >
> > > > The "savages" might have known more than we do
> > > about the unity of all
> > > > life. To pray to the animal to come so that
> the
> > > people might be fed,
> > > > or the courage might be shared, to use all the
> > > parts of the animal
> > > > for goods that would be made by hand, the only
> > > source of such goods,
> > > > to express gratitude to the animal for its
> > > sacrifice, to face the
> > > > animal on foot with hand made weapons, this
> > > presents quite a
> > > > different scenario. Now we use technology to
> > > create weapons that no
> > > > animal could survive. Do we use all the parts
> of
> > > the animal and waste
> > > > nothing? Do we express our gratitude to
> another
> > > life form for its
> > > > sacrifice that we may live? Do we kill an
> animal
> > > so that our tribe
> > > > can survive? Or are we motivated by profit
> above
> > > all?
> > > >
> > > > It seems reasonable to realize that the
> Japanese
> > > are not the only
> > > > nation engaged in some such activity. Maybe we
> are
> > > the "savages."
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >       
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