Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00067)

Slaughtering is going on even today and human being seems no to have changed
. All you need is to read the news. Modern technology is used. Drop a bomb,
kill a number of people. We call the pilot of the aircraft a hero.

As more people make a choice of non-killing, world will change. May take
time, but modern communication technology like Internet, TV will surely
help.

mkr

On 2/10/08, Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> That has been my dilemma too, have you ever asked
> yourself why KH and others went on watching the
> slaughtering of people in Africa in the 19th century?
>
> Nothing seems to have changed since then. We can all
> watch the slaughter of people every day on our TV sets
> or in the cinema...
> When I was a boy I once went to a slaughter house
> where I saw a cow being shot and hung and its neck
> knived...I went outside and saw barrels filled with
> eyes and other parts of animals. Later I found out
> they use these remains for glue on stamps..imagine my
> surprise, I have been a vegetarian most of my life...
> The only reason I could think off to do something
> about it was not supporting killing in ANY way...
>
> I think beings who choose for death consciously or
> unconsciously get death. We have no free will in the
> universe, we only have free choice...
>
> --- Richard Semock <semockr@hotmail.com <semockr%40hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Someone mentioned earlier that there is video
> > exposing the Jap ships
> > that are slaughtering whales so the expose part has
> > been taken care
> > of and now all we have to do if I hear you right, is
> > sit back and let
> > nature take the proper course of action. I don't
> > mind waiting, I can
> > use the time to read thru the SD a couple more
> > times, what do you
> > plan to do while you are waiting.
> >
> > I have to admit tho that I feel somewhat like a
> > dharma bum in this
> > scenario and I don't think the whales will like this
> > plan none too
> > much either.
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin
> > <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Check out the letter of the Maha Chohan, its all
> > laid
> > > out there...
> > > On war you can go short: don't support people who
> > kill
> > > or who want to kill.
> > > No harmonic/loving mind would want to kill, the
> > other
> > > minds should be locked up.
> > > Thou shall not kill, not even the air you breathe:
> > > when breathing out you could think I am nature
> > owned,
> > > when I breathe I give life and renew what is
> > > inappropriate...
> > > Even the worst enemies of humanity shouldn't be
> > > killed, since nature ( who is the one who actually
> > > decides when some1 or something has to die)has a
> > > special treatment for them...you just track the
> > > enemies down and expose them, thats all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > While we speak of the cruelty to animals, we
> > should
> > > > also keep in mind the
> > > > maiming, death and destruction casued in wars
> > and
> > > > sacrificing of healthy
> > > > young men and women for the sake of "world
> > peace",
> > > > "national security",
> > > > "democrary", "freedom", "emancipation of women"
> > etc.
> > > > Also when we look at
> > > > people (even theosophists) who organize
> > > > treatments/therapies for those
> > > > coming back from war with mental problems, these
> > are
> > > > the same people who say
> > > > not a word about the war itself which is the
> > root
> > > > cause of all these
> > > > suffering. This reminds me of the comments of
> > Ted
> > > > Turner, the guy who
> > > > started CNN said before the war -- it is the
> > dumbest
> > > > thing to do and he
> > > > repeated it even recently.
> > > >
> > > > mkr
> > > >
> > > > On 2/9/08, adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting comparison, Cass,
> > > > >
> > > > > ...as barbaric as a savage eating the heart of
> > a
> > > > lion to transfer its
> > > > > strength to the eater.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "savages" might have known more than we do
> > > > about the unity of all
> > > > > life. To pray to the animal to come so that
> > the
> > > > people might be fed,
> > > > > or the courage might be shared, to use all the
> > > > parts of the animal
> > > > > for goods that would be made by hand, the only
> > > > source of such goods,
> > > > > to express gratitude to the animal for its
> > > > sacrifice, to face the
> > > > > animal on foot with hand made weapons, this
> > > > presents quite a
> > > > > different scenario. Now we use technology to
> > > > create weapons that no
> > > > > animal could survive. Do we use all the parts
> > of
> > > > the animal and waste
> > > > > nothing? Do we express our gratitude to
> > another
> > > > life form for its
> > > > > sacrifice that we may live? Do we kill an
> > animal
> > > > so that our tribe
> > > > > can survive? Or are we motivated by profit
> > above
> > > > all?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems reasonable to realize that the
> > Japanese
> > > > are not the only
> > > > > nation engaged in some such activity. Maybe we
> > are
> > > > the "savages."
> > > > >
> > > > > Adelasie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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