Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00020)

Hi
Glad to know you are doing ok after the heart attack.
I have seen many cases of people quitting smoking cold turkey when they face
life changing situations. You should be able to do it.
mkr


On 8/1/07, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Hello again Christina,
> I am picturing you in your spot in the garden under the grapes "a good to
> be alive moment". I had a heart attack 5 weeks ago and it makes you
> appreciate that those moments are priceless. I am well now, and attempting
> to quit smoking which is one of the hardest things I have ever experienced.
> Be well
> Warm regards
> Cass
>
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com<christinaleestemaker%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> -Hallo Cass,
> Thanks for your attention.
> Yes since I have a laptop
> I am sitting to work in my garden
> don't laugh, under the grapes
> they are still growing blue now
> It is late in the year for it has raining a lot here
> Like the moessons in the very far East.
>
> So I can enjoy outside prana and don't need to sit in the house.
> That is why I have more time to follow and where I can help I will do
> I know you also do
> You showed Us a lot of nice things.
> Especially the Joke of the Perrot of Christmas
> I never forget that
> , LOL
> See you
> Christina
>
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, Cass
> Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Christina,
> > Long time since we last talked, hope you are keeping well. Thanks
> for clearing up this matter
> > Warm regards
> > Cass
> >
> > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
> > -Hi Cass,
> > I put it on this place for showing there are a lot of researched
> > posibilities.
> > But I think that way of trance, which I have seen by myself with other
> > people is not a permanent kundalini awakening.
> > That persons have same like with drugs.
> > Also hallucinations are of lower consciousness.
> >
> > But the research of Saraswati gives some ways of people from China and
> > Africa which reached the state of universal phenomenon(kundalini) in
> > which they saw all over and within others minds and also could walk
> > through fire, without they burned their legs.
> > Whatever it is, I think not directly a negative way.
> > We all know if we push for long time our legs to our behind, we also
> > can wake a certain energy.
> > Same with clairvoyance but they are of temperory kind
> >
> > It is not so easy , but more and more we can measure.
> > I think the buddhic state works through the pineal gland and visa
> > versa through our nervous system.
> > The more we purify the body, mind and spirit, the more higher levels
> > are to be reached in which we develope the pineal gland.
> > And all have to do with harmony, equilibrium or balancing the whole
> > system.
> >
> > Christina
> >
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, Cass
> Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Christina,
> > > I am no expert but trance states are not necessarily buddhic in
> > nature. Trance states I imagine spring from the sub-conscious which
> > is part of the conscious apparatus and as such can never be verified.
> > What I find interesting is that psychophrenics are always visited
> > by negative and not positive forces.
> > >
> > > Warm regards
> > > Cass
> > >
> > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > In Nothh West Botswana, Africa , the I Kung people of the
> > Kalahari
> > > desert dance for many hours to heat up n/um so that !kia state can be
> > > obtained. This state of transcendence resembles that in many yogic
> > > texts on kundalini in which states of consciousness beyond the
> > > ordinary and participation in eternity are discribed.
> > > Judith Cooper writes about the !Kung.
> > > I think there are individual and different ways in experiencing
> > > Kundalini.The results of it are not lying and you are right that it is
> > > a starting buddhic level a beginning in seeing all and healing all,
> > > from the intuitive level Buddhi.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Pablo Sender" <pasender@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But this is exactly what I feel will happen with that statement of
> > > > HPB (kundalini = active Buddhi) if we don't have a solid
> theosophical
> > > > answer for it. Anybody may say "I'm working to awaken Buddhi".
> > > > I don't think the Spiritual Insight and Wisdom (Buddhi) may be
> > > > awakened by whatever exercise of breathing or sex. There is no
> cause-
> > > > effect relationship in that. What has Wisdom to do with those
> > > > exercises?
> > > > Because of that I wouldn't even say there are different levels of
> > > > Kundalini (besides the fact that I never read it) because
> someone may
> > > > say: "Yes, these exercises are to awaken Kundalini in the
> > > > Paramahakosmic level" (you know how the New Agers are).
> > > > I think we have several hints in the theosophical literature to
> offer
> > > > as an answer what I wrote in a previous message: Kudalini is only a
> > > > lower aspect of Fohat, its awakening has to do with the psychic
> level
> > > > (not the spiritual), you can awaken it by the known exercises,
> but it
> > > > won't activate Buddhi. According to Occultism, we cannot awaken the
> > > > higher through the lower (is everybody aware of that teaching? I
> can
> > > > give HPB's references, when she talks about the Tattvas). But,
> > > > awakening Buddhi, the person will be able to awaken Kundalini,
> > > > although the Occultist method is through meditation, and not
> through
> > > > breathing or sex exercises.
> > > > p
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