Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt01022)

Daniel,

Really, there is no need to complicate matters so much.

We need both brain hemispheres: the one which is critical, and the one which is philosophical and mystical. 

The line of thought I follow says that a critical vision is important, but that it is not as important as the philosophical, integraive vision.

Hence a healthy criticism of illusory aspects of the movement  is clearly secondary although it is a significant task. 

I hope you don't have to label as "vague" every bit of abstract thought!

Carlos. 

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Data:Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:48:33 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Fraternization VERSUS falsehood, ignorance & humbug??

> Fraternization 
> VERSUS 
> falsehood, ignorance & humbug??
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> Carlos,
> 
> You wrote that the three quotes I gave were too outdated.
> 
> Of course, you do not explain why they are too outdated.
> Do you mean to say that they are not accurate statements
> or just what?
> 
> Take for example the following quote which was one of the
> three you commented on:
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> The Theosophical student of this generation has to guard himself
> against two extremes: one is to limit the freedom of thought and to
> live like a frog who looks upon his pond as the world, with nothing
> outside; the other is to expand and embrace indiscriminately -- in the
> name of brotherhood and fraternization -- falsehood, ignorance and
> humbug.
> 
> "The Aryan Path", Dec. 17, 1935
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> 
> Unless I am misreading what you have been writing from time to time at 
> Theos-Talk, it would appear that you must agree with this above 
> statement.
> 
> First of all, you appear to expouse "brotherhood and fraternization" 
> but then you also at the same time WARN against the "falsehood, 
> ignorance and humbug" of the Adyar TS. especially the 
> Besant/Leadbeater "falsehood, ignorance and humbug".
> 
> Now I know that there are ULT associates that share your opinion here 
> but I know that many of these ULT associates would say that one should 
> ALSO be aware of "falsehood, ignorance and humbug" of the Point Loma TS 
> especially of the claims made by and for Katherine Tingley.
> 
> Dallas TenBroeck has stated as much in the past on this forum and 
> others internet forums too.
> 
> You need only turn to THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, the 1951 edition, 
> where all this supposed "falsehood, ignorance and humbug" is related 
> in some detail.
> 
> Need I remind you that this book is still sold by the Theosophy Company 
> and by local ULT groups. I have seen the book for sale on ULT 
> booktables. Surely the ULT groups share some responsibility for 
> selling and propagating the material in this book?
> 
> Carlos, if you feel a responsibility to point out the "falsehood, 
> ignorance and humbug" connected to Besant and Leadbeater, why not also 
> the same concerning Mrs. Tingley?
> 
> But if you feel that what is written in THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT book 
> is not correct or even "outdated" then I urge you to appeal to the 
> Theosophy Company officials to withdraw this volume which many 
> Theosophists, no doubt, believe is a "wedge" and "active sore" working 
> against "fraternization" in the Theosophical Movement.
> 
> Daniel
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