Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00954)

ULT/DES versus Various Theosophical Societies/
Esoteric  Schools??? 

Once on Theos-Talk, Carlos Aveline wrote:

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The ULT (United Lodge of Theosophists) does not suppose it is "the
only channel", etc.
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But compare and contrast what Aveline stated above with the following
quotes from Robert Crosbie, founder of the ULT and the secret
Dzyan Esoteric School. 

Crosbie wrote these words in 1915:

"Today, after a quarter of a century, there are no less than three
widely heralded ---and a half dozen lesser known---'outer heads,'
[Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant, Genevieve Griscom, etc.] 'esoteric 
sections,' 'visible agents,' and what-not, all 
issuing 'orders,' 'instructions,' and 'teachings,' professedly
emanating from the Masters of H.P.B. and from H.P.B. herself. . ."

". . . The VARIOUS THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETIES and esoteric sections of
the day are IN NO SENSE REPRESENTATIVE OF the School of the Masters
or THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT. . . The Anciently universal Wisdom-
Religion, the School of the Masters and the Theosophical Movement
are in unbroken continuity of existence to-day as always. . . .

"...NOW [in 1915] as always, they have THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND 
AGENTS among men, who cannot be found out by any but those who have 
earned the right to know them. . . ." caps added.

"If, then, the TRUE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, and the true Chelas of
the School of the Masters are NOT to be found among those [persons
such as Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant, Charles Leadbeater, Ernest
Hargrove, etc. ??] who have lost the point of contact with the
Masters, while yet loudly proclaiming themselves Initiates and Outer
and Inner Heads of this, that, and the other theosophical society
and esoteric section, WHERE MAY THEY BE DISCERNED? . . ." caps added

See other relevant quotes at:
http://blavatskyarchives.com/crosbierobertdes.htm#critical

In these extracts, Crosbie does NOT paint a very pretty picture of
the various Theosophical Societies, their Leaders, their Esoteric
Schools, etc. 

Furthermore Crosbie asserts that the true Theosophical Movement and 
the true Chelas, representatives and agents of the Masters [the TRUE
CHANNELS???] must be sought for somewhere else.... WHERE??

This Crosbie writes only 6 years after he founded the secret Dzyan
Esoteric School.....

And remember what Greogry Tillett stated about the DES which seems 
quite relevant in light of Crosbie's above words.  Tillett wrote:

"The DES claimed to be on 'the original lines' of the ES under HPB. It
taught that HPB remained the Real Head of the School...."

Daniel
http://hpb.cc